Exactly.
For example EFT with 15 Brimstones+ 4 Aim-9M+ 4 Aim-120B’s usually costs 725-760 Sp while Su-34 with 6 KH38MT+ 1 Gbu and 4 A2A missiles usually costs 860-896 SP.
Sure KH38MT’s are F&F but as I’ve mentioned before you can use Brimstones in similiar way.
So Su-34’s loadout has less killing power (especially in A2A due to platform and missile limitations) but trades that with ease of use for it’s 6 A2G missiles. On top of that it costs more as well.
Imagine those Brims were LOAL instead of SAL, I believe SP cost of that thing should be close to a nuke lol.
That new update where you can set laser designators by clicking on a map really made things like Brimstones quasi-FnF.
Yet another indirect nerf for AAs, how great is that lol.
Just like how Aim54s ruled for a year and a half?
At least the R-27s have always been easier to evade than aim-120, nothing has matched their performance to date.
The Su-27s have been shown to not have a correct FM, and are under preforming.
Not like the MiG-29smt radar is still broken and hardly works or anything
Also, nato counterparts have at least double if not quadruple the counter measures.
And… let’s not forget how broken the Aim-9m has been, will be, and (especially in sim)
Lets be honest USA has dominated air since the F4E vs mig 21, the f14 with pheonixes was a nightmare.
Generally ive always had more issues against sparrows than R27s bar if someone stuffs it on a joust at 4km roughly.
The fact i would actively try and fight the mig29 SMT in a shitbus like the FGR2 shows how nerfed it was.
Lets not even talk about the su27 being a flying continent that has about one good turn before its literally falling out the sky, or its absolutely dog watwr rwr.
Even better im working my way towards this hunk nonsense and am not lookin forward to it. Ar all.
Edit, oh as you say, look at aim120s being the absolute best missile in game right, sure Micas, and R77s beat it in the close quarters. But the 120 allows it to not ever get to close quarters and nullifies the use of r77, mica and even darters.
Only thing ive seen get long range mica kills was the rafale
Design is irrelevant here, 2A7s are far more meta in terms of survivability than T-tanks ever were, but some people just couldn’t shut up about their, honestly, pretty mid survivability.
No one is to be blamed, I’m just stating facts.
T-tanks always had crippling cons tied to them, meanwhile 2A7s fixed most of their cons as they got better hull armor and thermals.
Anyone who moaned about BVM should be moaning about 2A7s too, as the latter is clearly more busted and have little to no cons (especially crippling ones).
Not really, I’m just stating cons that some people like to handwave like it’s nothing.
You don’t need to tell me that, I’m not the one who’s malding about RU having a single (at the time, pretty niche) advantage.
Speaking of 29SMT’s radar, I’ve been playing it to grind the event and that radar seems to be a piece of shit, with HMD locking stuff (usually friendlies and missiles over enemies) even outside of it’s reticle, all the while failing to lock stuff directly in it that should be a much easier lock.
Must day the nerf to the depression the engine deck has actually made me switch up my playstyle in THE a5 and 6
You know tank is good when it has NATO hump as it’s biggest con.
Super nato hump
Most likely its gonna cost 900sp at worst.
Its actually realistic feature, problem is current Spaa’s pretty much outdated against current A2G munitions.
How so?
I mean Leopard didn’t have the crews sit on top
of ammunition in most of the case (Bring 16 rounds) with spall liner it obvious gonna have more survivability because it was designed that ways
And I never denied up armored Leopard are better than Russians but it pretty much the only tanks that can play the game in Russian term no problem and you can see average maps in top tier map these days you probably see why i said Russian tanks vs up armored leopard are fair game compare to Russian vs other i mean yeah with the maps these days tanks like T-tanks and uparmored Leopard both the the only two tanks that had comfortable times other? not so much
Aside from SU34’s PESA radar SMT has the best radar you can find on Russian Jets.
american pilots had to go through the trouble of… flying below 100m to neutralize r27r, which was apparently game breaking imbalance (in favor of ussr)
BVM was never as strong as 2A7s are today, as it had a lot of flaws (even crippling ones) that you have to work around. As far as I’m concerned, 2A7s biggest flaw is what, NATO hump ?
@Panther2995
Being better than shitty ones doesn’t necessarily make it good.
As I said, HMD is aggravatingly inconsistent, locking things that it should never be able to lock. I’ve had enemies dead center of my reticle coming right at me from 7-8kms away, but it somehow locked someone else that wasn’t even in the reticle. Actual monitor spitting moment.
TWS is also of no use as BVR in that crapbox is a suicide mission.
Some people think balance is achieved only when RU stuff is sub-par in every category, otherwise it’s biased and whatnot.
And it will never be but at least BVM against Uparmored Leopard are fairer game than BVM against other western tanks in average close combat of WT
too bad that what Leopard 2 are the more they upgrade the less flaw they become plus in the game Leopard 2 are the cripple version of it compared to real life
which mean there is nothing left of it to be nerf when it already worse version of itself.
I was going to run a series of tests myself playing both the 2a7vs (German and Swedish variants) and in the Abrams (SEP and M1a2 base).
In addition to some hanger protection analysis screenies I’d be recording
1: shots on Abrams and Leopard 2a7v with the opposite respective tank, frontally and from other angles since side and rear shots are hardly uncommon, this would help test the survivability statement on both tanks. 50±10 reps each (probably won’t need many reps to conclude rear shots are lethal to both).
2: Custom battles to put my own mobility claims to the test, to simulate which tank can reach an advantageous position fastest I would be racing each tank to a cap point on a specific map from the same precise starting location.
Let me know if you have anything else you’d like to add to the methodology for my tests.
The reason why I’m controlling for players by making it all come from myself, is that I wish to control for all variables that aren’t the tanks themselves, because I believe American players on average are just worse than Swedish, German, and Italian players at top tiers, especially Sweden and Italy. And I assume you’d at least mostly agree
sounds like decent enough experiment for it.
You can yap anything you want about standardized tests and stuff, but showing your animosity at first towards a playergroup only leads me to believe that you’ll eventually tweak anything you may see as a proper disadvantage of the M1 series to deny its existence.
Renzo may agree to your terms, but as a foreigner to the conversation, I think you’ll find a way to keep your claims with the sense of confidence over basically cherrypicked evidence.
Actually SMT’s radar is very good if you compare to other top tiers, it has quite good scanning speed, really good tracking angles and multiple mode options.
Its far from bein average or trash.
That problem occurs on almost anything.
I have every single top tier jet, including EFT and Rafale and they also do that kind of things from time to time, especially EFT.
I disagree, that TWS is insanely good and gives you very good situational awareness against your enemies, even if you dont do BVR.