Some people just like helicopters more than planes.
Also, I’m sure helis can toss more ordnance and reload faster than air, right ?
Mostly because current heli FnFs are neutered.
Can you show me the SP difference between CAS plane and helicopter, I’m genuinely curious ?
Which if we got larger more well built maps would help i reckon.
While i do believe the abrams is a good tank in game. That doesn’t change it has issued model wise and armour wise, the fuel bins is just on example.
I do wish we had more balance amongst the top tier tanks.
Not a flavour of the month so to speak
Depends, i absolutely suck with helis doesnt matter what one.
But in a fixed wing ill do fine.
most helicopters allow for more control over the outcome. by this I mean that fire and forget missiles that jets mostly use leave half if it up to chance. with saclos or beam riding, you actually guide the missile (you can predict where the enemy will be, guide the missile into weakpoints, use them as APS)
With a full loadout on both? My Ah64 costs about 600 and the A10 for example with 6 mavs, gbus and the gun pods is 700 odds if i remember right.
F15A with 3 GBUs and a 4 x aim7f and 4 x aim9m is only 650 odds if i remember right
Yeah but unlike planes helicopters has to deal with both Spaa’s,enemy jets and helicopters.
Meanwhile Proper CAS Jet only has to deal with enemy jets.
That also effects but helicopter gameplay is much more limited than Jets.
Sure let me take a picture.
These are current loadouts on my SU-34 and KA-52, as you can see Helicopter requires much less SP points than Jets.
True but the jet is also a more mobile harder target,.so to speak.
Both have rolls and fill them differently imo
I should also mention how jet cas suffers from weather greatly. while helicopters are truly all-weather. for example, not many jets have thermals for misty conditions, and thunderclouds, overcasts, etc force the jet to become very vulnerable and in range of spaa
Take off the guided bomb and itll drop.to about 700
Also what belts do you have on the su34? 800 seems quite high
how funny, we use the same skins for those two
Yeah but meanwhile you have to deal with enemy Spaa’s,jets and sometimes even enemy helicopters while using helicopters, not to mention you have much more limited gameplay options due to helicopters nature.
Meanwhile a proper CAS jet only has to deal with enemy jets while it can freely use airspace in order to avoid enemy spaas and helicopters.
Jets are much more dangerous than helicopters in this game.
Black and white is the only way to go for SU34 in my book :D
As far Ka52 i randomly found that skin while i also have market Egytp skin, but this one looks cooler in my book.
in my recent experience, fox3s made jet cas extremely uncomfy. while they virtually don’t harm helicopters because those aren’t fast enough to be locked properly. and dealing with spaa in a heli with saclos/beam riders is very fun
KH38MT’s are the reason why SU34’s SP is so high, due to bein F&F munitions they require higher SP compare to regular munitions.
I always use stock belts on my CAS planes, no need to add additional SP to spawn.
i dont use any belts, the spawn cost is also very high for my su34
Well since im quite experienced Air Rb player FOX-3’s doesnt bother me too much, i usually send my all A2G munitions and stay aware against enemy jets, most of the time it works pretty good.
Actually i killed countless helicopters with my FOX3 missiles, just use hard lock and most of the time it will find its target.
Sure its fun and challenging but i prefer EZ mode :D
I agree on the jet/heli part but against AAs your MAW is a really big handhold, which will make you almost untouchable on proper spots while also not limiting your offensive capabilities if you’re slinging FnFs.
I agree that their gameplay is limited but mostly in the A2A department, whereas their A2G is (would be) pretty solid.
So it looks like helicopters are for people that didn’t get quite enough SPs to spawn in a plane.
With buffed FnFs this would mean more people will have access to broken stuff to bully the tanks, just with less versatility and A2A capabilities.
Problem is MAW system doesnt work properly sometimes and fighting against Spaa in helicopter is much more challenging than fighting in Jets, Ground rb is already stressful so i prefer rather easy mode than another challenge.
A2G is solid no doubt but as i’ve mentioned before helicopters has to deal with multiple enemy units while limited by terrain, on some maps you cant even do your job properly due to map design.
+1
Yeah i agree on that part, like i said helicopters are fine and can stay in their current state.
I just wish armaments could recieve their historical performance due to bein military fan but i know it will be more cancerous for gameplay so im fine with it.
also, jets have made me sweat only when I was playing in like, 80% chinese filled lobbies, for some reason. i shouldn’t play war thunder in the morning for this reason :p.
I got it, my view is skewed because most of heli users only got a kd of just above 1 with them or worse. i just know how to avoid fox3s, i seriously rarely get killed by them - and that is when I forget to reduce my speed.
absolutely not
don’t put it like that xD
I see, that seems quite high compared to what i get on the A10 for example, or the 15A, hell even seems higher than what i get on the gripen with the 4 AGMS and aim9ms. sucks it cant take ARH missiles with them AGMS
hmm it seems quite high but maybe just me using poor loadouts.
it isnt as much as youd think xd still cant use it myself tbh
