I should also mention how jet cas suffers from weather greatly. while helicopters are truly all-weather. for example, not many jets have thermals for misty conditions, and thunderclouds, overcasts, etc force the jet to become very vulnerable and in range of spaa
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Take off the guided bomb and itll drop.to about 700
Also what belts do you have on the su34? 800 seems quite high
how funny, we use the same skins for those two
Yeah but meanwhile you have to deal with enemy Spaa’s,jets and sometimes even enemy helicopters while using helicopters, not to mention you have much more limited gameplay options due to helicopters nature.
Meanwhile a proper CAS jet only has to deal with enemy jets while it can freely use airspace in order to avoid enemy spaas and helicopters.
Jets are much more dangerous than helicopters in this game.
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Black and white is the only way to go for SU34 in my book :D
As far Ka52 i randomly found that skin while i also have market Egytp skin, but this one looks cooler in my book.
in my recent experience, fox3s made jet cas extremely uncomfy. while they virtually don’t harm helicopters because those aren’t fast enough to be locked properly. and dealing with spaa in a heli with saclos/beam riders is very fun
KH38MT’s are the reason why SU34’s SP is so high, due to bein F&F munitions they require higher SP compare to regular munitions.
I always use stock belts on my CAS planes, no need to add additional SP to spawn.
i dont use any belts, the spawn cost is also very high for my su34
Well since im quite experienced Air Rb player FOX-3’s doesnt bother me too much, i usually send my all A2G munitions and stay aware against enemy jets, most of the time it works pretty good.
Actually i killed countless helicopters with my FOX3 missiles, just use hard lock and most of the time it will find its target.
Sure its fun and challenging but i prefer EZ mode :D
I agree on the jet/heli part but against AAs your MAW is a really big handhold, which will make you almost untouchable on proper spots while also not limiting your offensive capabilities if you’re slinging FnFs.
I agree that their gameplay is limited but mostly in the A2A department, whereas their A2G is (would be) pretty solid.
So it looks like helicopters are for people that didn’t get quite enough SPs to spawn in a plane.
With buffed FnFs this would mean more people will have access to broken stuff to bully the tanks, just with less versatility and A2A capabilities.
Problem is MAW system doesnt work properly sometimes and fighting against Spaa in helicopter is much more challenging than fighting in Jets, Ground rb is already stressful so i prefer rather easy mode than another challenge.
A2G is solid no doubt but as i’ve mentioned before helicopters has to deal with multiple enemy units while limited by terrain, on some maps you cant even do your job properly due to map design.
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Yeah i agree on that part, like i said helicopters are fine and can stay in their current state.
I just wish armaments could recieve their historical performance due to bein military fan but i know it will be more cancerous for gameplay so im fine with it.
also, jets have made me sweat only when I was playing in like, 80% chinese filled lobbies, for some reason. i shouldn’t play war thunder in the morning for this reason :p.
I got it, my view is skewed because most of heli users only got a kd of just above 1 with them or worse. i just know how to avoid fox3s, i seriously rarely get killed by them - and that is when I forget to reduce my speed.
absolutely not
don’t put it like that xD
I see, that seems quite high compared to what i get on the A10 for example, or the 15A, hell even seems higher than what i get on the gripen with the 4 AGMS and aim9ms. sucks it cant take ARH missiles with them AGMS
hmm it seems quite high but maybe just me using poor loadouts.
it isnt as much as youd think xd still cant use it myself tbh
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also on a side note im out of likes D:
TBH i prefer a fixed wing, I prefer getting in and out than the risk for helis, Helicopters if used rightly are absolutely more dangerous for ground targets as they consistently can keep firing, oppose to dropping one or two FnF missiles (yes i know can be more) and hoping they hit oppose to guided in like say a vihkr or a hellfire.
it is very very difficult to use a heli properly compared to a jet though IMO
Shame that MAWs worked on the enemies I tried to shoot down, as they’d instantly start shitting out flares and you could see the pilots reacting to that.
We agree that helicopters are more vulnerable to other units than planes.
Terrain on some maps can actually play in your favor, especially in those fish bowl style maps like Pradesh, where you can reposition quickly and have cover basically wherever you go.
We need EFT with more than a dozen LOAL Brimstones.
Thats because KH38MT’s are on different level compare to those armaments, also Rafale witth F&F AASM bombs requires similiar sp due to their capabilities as well.
F&F munitions are the key part when it comes to determing SP cost, guided bombs or semi active missiles doesnt require as much as Sp.
For example my EFT with 15 Brimstone 4 AIM9M and 4 AIM120 only requires 730 SP points due to not having F&F ability but since Brimstones can be used the way i’ve explained EFT is also as effective as Rafale/SU34 in cas department.
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yeah because you have to- ahh no I won’t tell you, I don’t want to get shot down more…
does that mean that a fully loaded (with pars) tiger heli takes more than 620sp?
Please do enlighten me.
only if you pinky promise to never attack a ka52 ever again
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