Tbh every nation need better SPAA since forever. Cause the rate of better CAS being added is way way way way way way higher than the stuff ground get to counter those thing and the situation is even worse the lower you go
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I’m conflating your point with the umpteen posts about US AIR on the forum, my bad.
I agree with you, the best thing to do is hands down get in your f16 or better yet f15c/e. Except then everyone will talk about the utter dominance of it. Damned if you do, damned if you do t.
Though now it seems like the British/german EF is the best one if I’m not mistaken, because it carries the same amount of AMRAAMs as f16, but 4 more IR missiles on an incredible FM(from what I understand).
That said, it doesn’t fix the SP cost disparity, especially if you’re getting trounced every game as a U.S. player. Would be hard to stop the spanking when the SP costs holding back your ability to deal with CAS is locked behind a performance level you can’t achieve in U.S. ground from your teammates being ass.
Which is why in the end, it’s still a problem. They should have a limited CAP loadout option which drops spawn cost down a lot. That would fix a lot for a lot of nations.
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I would agree, but since spaa is so low cost to spawn points wise it makes sense why they aren’t great, I’d personally tweak the physics changes they did to spaa to make the missiles more repsonsive and reliable, maybe juice the radars we have a bit, be a bit more generous with max range calculations, and then make their sp cost equal to that of a light tank roughly.
At least as far as radar missile spaa goes I think that would be reasonable.
The FM is incredible for 1v1 dogfighting in some scenarios, because of this people tend to say the deltas have the “best” fm when there’s a lot more to it, energy retention matters a whole lot more than UFO pulls bleeding all your speed in real matches if that makes sense, I’d reccomend Seeker Head’s recent EF2000 video as he can articulate it better than I can.
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I would prefer CAS being nerfed in cost and removal of scouting reduce cost on air stuff in general. Just turn the assist on scout kill into more SL and RP
Unpopular opinion, but CAS is already 5 times as expensive or more than an MBT with optimal loads, so that’s already fine imo, it’s just that teams suck at countering them with CAP and radar missile spaa got screwed over by the missile physics changes they did a while back.
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Yes i acknowledged that, however it still is a buff to the vehicle while other trees literally have nothing at all.
As i said all trees need an spaa that.can compete in range with pantsir, becuase now, within decent range, the adats missile and the VT1 are far better.
However neither have the range of the pantsir, from a cas standpoint its missiles arent very difficult to defeat either btw its just due to the long range pressure is applied before even getting near the battlefield, its not destined to take out a fix wing unless they fly like a brain is missing.
But i do agree and at no point will say otherwise it is in a league of its own right now.
It was also a lower BR absolute dogging on tanks that couldnt fight back.
sure, so lets drop the SP of jets with fox-3 to the same level as SPAA
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We need better AAs as plenty of people won’t have top tier jets researched and others might not even enjoy playing air at all.
The 15E is the best for grb due to the multirole capability , the EF2000 and raf are fantastic for pure cap
Lets be quite honest theres always people going to absolutely cry their heads off that X vehicle isnt some untouchable death machine.
Reality wise, if USA got a more.modern/ effective spaa (which it should, as well as other natioms) it would be one, if not, the best trees in game now
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Nah. Even though it’s a combined arms gamemode, CAS should always be at least at a slight disadvantage compared to CAP/SPAA in ground RB.
So either they should add massively better SPAA systems or they should make CAP loadouts much much cheaper.
42 single plane and 60g dual plane
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I really didn’t, but maybe I missed it, feel free to repeat it and I’ll address it
The second half of my comment wasn’t really at you specifically
Again, for the record, if I try harded the T80UM2 it would easily be my best tank. But I don’t try hard it because I don’t like having an unfair advantage, that’s why I play the PSO and 2A6 over the 2A7, or the Ariete over the 2A7HU.
I know you can’t relate or understand the above so it really is just for the record.
Yes which isnt in game yet ? Or did they add dual plane?
So, you directed this at @БЕИ , when he literally did not mention you at all, another unwarranted insult you are throwing at another forum member, trying to take the moral or intellectual high ground by saying that they cant relate or understand.
Why? what is the need for that, the dudes just pointing out the obvious that checking stats allows you to see if a person is actually warranted in what they are saying, at no point were you, or your stats specifically brought up.
You are as @スカサハ said, are not actually address the actual points and arguments people are making, and instead are throwing insults or baseless accusations around which again, you just insulted another forum member for literally no reason.
go back up and read what everyone has said to you then rather than request it be typed out for you again.
Again this is miles off topic and to be honest its quite franky pretty stupid and petty. can we again try get back on topic?
I dont mind debating nuance over US top tier and the tit for tat on what tank is better or worse but this is miles off of what the discussion should be about and its getting out of hand.
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He made multiple posts about my stats in the T80UM2, context matters (which is why you like removing it)
No he made remarks on it previously.
In the comment you responded to he made no such remarks related to you whatsoever, you took it upon yourself to make it about you.
I removed absolutely no context and explained the same there as here, you are now lying about me, and accusing me now.
Now as ive said upteen times, this is miles, off topic and you are consistently doing your best to stir up bother at this stage.
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“He made multiple posts about it”
“Nuh-uh he made remarks on it previously”
nuff said
The specifc comment both he responded too, and wrote were not related to you at all.
Neither of that is what was said, again falsifying information aka lying.
You completely ignored as well what I and others are saying about the points on abrams and are specifically throwing around insults and accusations, that are baseless and unfounded.
That comment, was absolutely nothing to do with you but you related it to yourself, thats on you.
I’d suggest if you’ve nothing nice, sensible or on topic to say, then say nothing.
Again ill say this as i want to make sure we all understand that this is, off topic.
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