Is the T58 and Turm III a little too strong at 8.3?

Statshark is though.

The AMX-13 and E100 are CLEARLY OP tanks . . . according to statshark.

That is if you miss their context.

Which means statshark too is unreliable. You needa stop thinking every American vehicle in the game is OP.

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Again, yes if you miss the context of the data you’re seeing.

Which you clearly are.

Says the guy taking E-100 as an example to prove something.
If you don’t see how E-100 isn’t comparable to T58 or Turm III, then we have nothing else to talk about.

Idk why you’re so intent on comparing E-100 to T58 but go ahead. Point still stands that skilled players playing a tank doesn’t make it OP.

E-100 is actually played by skilled players due to how it’s obtained.
T58 and Turm III don’t really share that.

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Turm III is actually strong.

T58 was strong, but after the nerf it’s above average at best. Its stats of leftover from it’s short time of glory, and from the pros that still play it.

How was it nerfed.

HESH got bugfixed IIRC.

When ?
HESH can still nuke things by just hitting a single pixel of their tracks.

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This week if I remember rightly, still got a non penetration on a BMP3 somehow earlier xD

Any link to that ?

Turm is decent but still can’t consider as OP, but T58 is definitely OP. I just killed a Turm hiding behind a rock by just shoot right top roof of it turret with APFSDS and his turret just popped like fireworks during new year, but if I facing T58 even I got the APFSDS I still don’t 100% sure I can pen it’s turret and kill it’s crew. It just like the 2s38 pre nerf, if you can’t kill it in 1 shot then you died.

No I do not but I can tell you where the mistakes came from if that helps?
On the steam announcement they’re showing a fix for HEAT.

Such as this, however when checking their actual update log it has absolutely zero mention of HEAT or HESH.

Got that backwards.

Turm III is undoubtedly OP, T58 is just good.

That HEAT fix is mentioned here, literally word for word. I still don’t see how T58 got nerfed though.

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See the one on steam is the same one, but the actual changelog which is what I linked you doesn’t have the heat mentioned in it at all.

Oh that I’ve no fkin idea how T58 got nerfed? I was purely talkin about HESH and made a mistake

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