Is the T58 and Turm III a little too strong at 8.3?

But it is an autoloader, when the six shots are fired you need to wait a long time if you don’t have a cap nearby.

Also, non-stabilized, in a BR where most things are stabilized, and the slight uptier makes it all tanks stabilized

That’s the tradeoff

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Doing what?

Must sell more premium, must make more profit, and what can we do about it when so many people lean into it and spend exorbitant amounts into this game

yea it’s busted, you don’t really need anymore proof than:

  1. it’s premium
  2. it’s new
  3. it’s high tier
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Yeah i know about all of these. I wasn’t saying it should get nerfed

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I dont have the Turms, but yea the t58 could def get increased in BR. Im not by any means a great player, and i pretty much always have 8-10 plus kills every match in this thing. And thats while watching movies or shows and half assing it

So this is not Your account?

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AB My brother

Topic is in RB section.

When it comes to AB:


It doesn’t support what You say

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Very much agreed

correct, it would be absolutely terrible at 9.0, it would get ripped apart by darts.

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T58 is the embodiement of the compression issue

That being said it could go up even if no decompression is done. Being non stabilized isn’t enough to warrant a low br imo.

The lower section of the turret can still resist some darts

Maybe it feels like 8-10 kills for him because he usually just gets 1-2 in other vehicles 😌

Nah thats just a bad argument with no meaning to it.

The Pz IV F2 is a medium.
The T-34 is a medium.

One has great armor, great mobility and fast turret traverse, the other has the mobility of a heavy tank and the armor penetration of a TD.

A heavy tank isn’t defined by having armor that makes it nearly invulnerable, it’s a combination of better armor than medium tanks and medium tank or stronger firepower.

The KV-85 has unmatched firepower at 4.7, the Churchill Mk VII unmatched levels of armor.

They are both heavies but you make can’t the argument that the KV-85 needs to have a BR where it’s armor becomes as effective as the Churchills.

It’s a trade-off.

The T58 beats out every 8.3-9.0 in terms of raw firepower due to that insane 2.6s reload with a 155mm cannon that one shots others 50% of the time and 99% kills in two, where others only fired once.

So the T58 needs to become vulnerable to the tanks it fights to off-set its extreme advantage.

It’s the same with the Turms III.
The combination of mobility, firepower and the ability to disable or destroy vehicles just with its secondary gun are unmatched at 8.3 prior to the T58 introduction.

It’s just another overpowered premium at 8.3.

Can you remind me if is-7 or 279 were super op on launch? I dont remember that far back.

Also, I think i’ve seen you in a match, HI!

They were. Practically unstoppable.

Same deal with the KV-220.

But hardly any Event vehicle doesn’t overperform at the BR it’s introduced.

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  1. Shir 2s and T-64Bs aren’t all that common.
  2. You can pen, out load, and kill them easily.
  3. It cannot be 8.7, because it will continue to bully 7.7s, 8.0 still suffers if it’s 9.0, and in its current 8.3 capability, 7.3s are getting clobbered.

If it had a 5.0 sec reload, then it would be okay for 8.7, but it won’t get that, due to the people whining for USA accurate reloads, which is a double standard. Other nations lack their true reload speeds, but certain good already nations still get the buffs?

Reload is king. End of story

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So then, whats the point in a heavy tank if you can kill it easily with a medium tank??? Thats why we have tank destroyers aka atgms?

The tanks must be bonked.