Is the T58 and Turm III a little too strong at 8.3?

This week if I remember rightly, still got a non penetration on a BMP3 somehow earlier xD

Any link to that ?

Turm is decent but still can’t consider as OP, but T58 is definitely OP. I just killed a Turm hiding behind a rock by just shoot right top roof of it turret with APFSDS and his turret just popped like fireworks during new year, but if I facing T58 even I got the APFSDS I still don’t 100% sure I can pen it’s turret and kill it’s crew. It just like the 2s38 pre nerf, if you can’t kill it in 1 shot then you died.

No I do not but I can tell you where the mistakes came from if that helps?
On the steam announcement they’re showing a fix for HEAT.

Such as this, however when checking their actual update log it has absolutely zero mention of HEAT or HESH.

Got that backwards.

Turm III is undoubtedly OP, T58 is just good.

That HEAT fix is mentioned here, literally word for word. I still don’t see how T58 got nerfed though.

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See the one on steam is the same one, but the actual changelog which is what I linked you doesn’t have the heat mentioned in it at all.

Oh that I’ve no fkin idea how T58 got nerfed? I was purely talkin about HESH and made a mistake

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I mean, any HESH change will impact vehicles that carry it, T58 included.
Just was curious to what might’ve happened to it.

As far as I know it does actually work reasonably well on the British L11 120mm cannons , as well as the 105 L7s and variants.
But I take hesh irregardless and learned to use it, sometimes it does absolutely nothin like hitting a BMP3 LFP the big ass flat one and getting a non pen

BMP-3 LFP is spaced armor and due to HESH fuse being instant (instead of slightly delayed) it will generate the fragmentation/scab on the external armor and then that will be eaten by the actual armor.

HESH should have a decent kinetic penetration of at least 30mm+ for low caliber rounds (76mm) but Gaijin is hard headed as usual

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It’s the BMP3 being hit LFP with a 120MM hesh would blow it apart, it would pancake as well as flatten said spaced armour. Hell the explosive mass alone would overpressure it.

Hesh needs reworked, yet again

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This monstrosity finally got moved up in BR.

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Poor T58. It deserved so much better.

yea. moving to 9.0 where it belongs

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I had doubts in a previous post so went and bought the T58. Already had the Turm. T58 is a busted shit stomper if there ever was one. 6 round autoloader with heat that has that level of penetration…its too easy.
Turm is a glass cannon and even random 20mm can kill it…T58 however, jesus its the final boss of 8.3. Only issue I have seen is it gets hit and nearly every time gunner or autoloader breaks but considering how fast you can fire…nah its busted. Shot up 6 tanks for 6 kills in less than 20 seconds yesterday.

It need to be moved up to 9.3 at a minimum. Turm I think is ok just due to how easy it is to kill.
Also side note…the damn Maus need to be moved up also to beyond 9. 128mm and 88mm with armor a dart from a 105mm with over 300mm of pen breaks or bounces. It way to heavily armored for most tanks to take head on and even on the sides.

so now the T58 goes up.

turm 3 stays at 8.3… yay…

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sorry bro your m47 must suffer a bit more

Want to play a late 1940s tank?

Screw you, fight a 1960s prototype with a main gun that was relevant until the 2000s, and has a coaxial machine gun thats identical to the gun on one of the most toxic SPAAs in the game. EVERY SINGLE MATCH

and dont worry, you can easily pen the armour, too bad its 90% empty space so nothing will be disabled

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very conveniently missing detailed internal modules)))

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7.7 to 8.7 are currently still compressed as f, half the things didn’t even have stab vs fully stab, not to mention some still using ww2 ap on top of not having stabilizer vs fully stabilized DM23 lol British also one of the biggest offenders to have a olifant at 8.3, fully stabilized, dm23 with lrf against things like t32 and is-3 lol