Is the Su-57 really worse than the F-22?

You’re cherry picking a damaged F-22.


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Do you see how the average F-22 doesn’t have obvious nose damage? What you’re doing is Deceptive Imagery Persuasion by choosing one single damaged airframe and using it as if it’s every aircraft and it’s not working.

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and you are cherry picking those few pre production sukhoi airframes with bad stealth

could say it better but you own words will do

Lmao beat me to it, they are normally filled with radar absorbent putty but this particular airframe hadn’t received an overhaul in a long time

I haven’t even sent any Su-57 images, so that’s just silly. And you know the difference between the F-22 and the Su-57? One has actually seen regular combat.

I know I’m not the best at wording, but it’s actually insane that people have started thinking imaginary figures make the Su-57 ZEE BEST AIRCRAFT IN ZEE WORLD!!!1!!!

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This particular airframe was running air shows and hadn’t received an overhaul in at least 18 months. You don’t need stealth for air shows so of course it wouldn’t be overhauled

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Flushed bolts fyi

Su-57 has also engaged targets over syria and ukraine
but i cannot post any ukraine stuff or i will get ban hammered

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it aint, but it aint as bad as you would like to think either

i aint no russsssia nor murikkkkka fan. but what i do have is a third party perspective

Timid combat hiding in your own airspace and getting blasted to pieces by drones is not what I’d call effective at testing a platform lmao

That’s not true lol

I was trying to find where it came from, but I could only link it back to a reddit post.

I’m also not really an air guy. I’m mostly into tanks.

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last i checked syria is not part of russia

last i checked a drone strike on a parked et is not aircombat

i got experience having my comments removed for such reasons hence why i say so

Here ya go, you may tout yourself as 3rd party but you’re picking one airframe and using that as your evidence

Last I checked there’s been no reports of the Su-57 being active in Syria for 6 years.

Hiding in your airspace isn’t air combat either lol

Saying something for historical context will not get you punished :|

he asked for an f-22 with exposed bolts
just one
i showed him

im not at fault here broski

There’s a fine difference between flush bolts and those that stick out or aren’t flush lol

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already addressed

gaijin likes to maintain neutrality when concerning current conflicts

if i say something that would be interpreted as taking sides in. say the isr**li operation in gaza, i would get hammered

You are at fault for not giving the whole story, he didn’t give the whole story about a pre-production airframe and you didn’t mention it hadn’t received an overhaul in a while. Missing details can lead to people making incorrect assumptions.

and as he asked for someone to show non-flushed or exposed bolts on a single f-22, i showed

its not that hard to get broski.

why you ganging up on me?

all he asked was for exposed bolts.
nothing more.
i showed him exposed bolts
nothing more.

It’s been 6 years, and it didn’t do literally anything lol

Already Unimpressed.

Talking about one for context and without being political is not against the rules. I’ve had many discussions involving Israeli vehicle inaccuracies based on the 7th attacks and Gaza without being punished simply because I was being objective.

So, no. You wouldn’t be hammered if you were careful.