Is the Gripen Still Relevant in Warthunder?

Get a job on gjn if you love their decision in the accuracy side of things so much.

Don’t see how this relates to what I said

Very much does unless you’re denying yourself.

I’m guessing you’re not going to explain this

I’ve said it. you disagree with my statement and that means marching behind current Gaijin position. That’s it.

I disagree with the idea that the gripen doesn’t have an excellent CM suite rn, yes…

Gaijin doesn’t factor into this

everything good about other top tier planes is simply better on the typhoon (other than radar, its bugged and not ever getting fixed) and even better on the rafale as its consistently gotten buffed for a while now.
fast, agile, good weaponry. you are leagues ahead in most ways, the mica missile is also arguably the best in game

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Nerfing shit and leaving it as is despite condition allowing reversal is a Gaijin position. if you think Air Superiority update nerf is still relevant for balance in Hornet Sting, you’re just another Gaijin shill.

These are fallacies.
The only way to achieve good results is to be lucky enough to have a worse enemy than you on a much superior platform.

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You are, the Rafale shits on the Gripen

BVR I can believe, but I seem to fight them just fine with guns only.

You’re not comprehend-able here

Which fallacy?

It only takes a small amount of skill advantage for something like the Gripen to win because ultimately it’s competitive besides missile count…

Brah you are 19-15 and prob 30-50% the games you got 12.7

And it only takes a small amount of skill advantage for something like the (insert 13.7 plane here) to win.

I don’t think you read what you posted.

Im basically making a counterargument with your same reasoning:
“If you have skill you can win on the Gripen” yes but if you have skill on ANY OTHER 13.7, you can do better.

Or perhaps the better way of putting it at the moment.

There is no reason to touch the Gripen C in the British or Italian TTs once you have the Typhoon unlocked. None of things that would make it a viable alternative are modeled and its in a nerfed state that should not be at 13.7, but cannot go down

Japan sees some benefit from it, but not much with the F-15J(M) much stronger and hopefully soon the F-2 and that leaves Sweden struggling to compete at top tier.

Yes, you can make the Gripen C work, but it is barely a competitive aircraft at the moment and needs a total overhaul, starting with BOL being fixed and the fake nerfs applied as a result of the Gripen’s introduction being reverted.

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Grippy C my beloved. I’ve been able to win 3v1s in that beauty. Absolute beast. Just pop series or 4 countermeasures at a time and u’ll be A-okay 👍

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I have essentially all of the top-tier jet platforms, so here’s my take:

It’s not bad at all. But it won’t net you high score matches consistently due to your limited loadout. You have to be cautious to avoid wasting your shots.

Survivability/defense is above average, while offense is below.

It’s a jet that handles well being in defensive situations, especially the British gripen with R-darters (derbys but tiny tiny bit worse). Best energy retention of any 13.7 and a ton of countermeasures.

The Swedish one is less “specialized” in being defensive and fighting at shorter ranges, but you have missiles with more range. Arguably worse just by the fact that you trade efficiency in high probability of kill ranges for extra range in BVR, but the Gripen isn’t a great platform for BVR due to the subpar climb rate/acceleration and speed.

It’s not in a fantastic spot right now, mind you… There are better choices for the meta, and by meta I mean getting as many kills as fast as possible so your team snowballs over the enemy.

It shouldn’t be lowered in BR. But if BRs were decompressed, some other 13.7s could be put higher than the Gripen to make it fair

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