You are like the only other person I met besides myself that haven’t trashed the Darters. I personally think they fit the Grippen well, but people want 120 spam and refuse to actually understand another playstyle than “fly high, Ponyboy”
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My train of thought is that unskilled players will do better with aim120. HOBS is irrelevant for them because they won’t do it, they constantly disregard their own plane safety and go all offense, so on average, all their missile launches will be more dangerous with aim120s since on medium-long range they have higher PK.
Because of that, when they get higher kill counts, it’s probably just because they had luck with their “BVR” launches and come to the conclusion that aim120 = best fox3, when in practice, the aim120 is only better than others on ranges where one can already easily defend themselves by getting into a notch.
Any 1v1 engagement between competent players will end up at very close ranges while launching at high off bore angles to run back into the notch ASAP, sometimes even resulting in a merge and/or fox2 kill.
The British gripen C will absolutely club the Swedish one in a 1v1 because the r-darters will allow it to get a much better position even when starting the initial engagement with a worse/ defensive position due to the inicial range advantage of aim120s
Obviously, AirRB is not just 1v1s and HOBS fest, the aim120 are still great in the meta since they are usually the ones getting a few kills early game to start the snowball. They are still decent, but they make for a more boring gameplay so its my least favourite pick.
Getting aim120 kills feels like the enemy did something wrong.
Getting r-darter (and others) kills feels like I did something right.
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I have only used the SA Gripen but I have to say that despite the recent nerfs and the few missiles it is still a very capable fighter
My point is the jet is fine? Very much able to be competitive? You can’t turn this around because it doesn’t work both ways. Nobody is saying F-15E doesn’t beat Gripen when both pilots are same skill (ie, if F-15E ACTUALLY uses his advantages)
The point is the Gripen, with just a SMALL amount of skill injection… is PERFECTLY FINE.
lmao, wanting Gripen C to be 13.3 but at the same time thinking F-4S at 12.0 is undertiered is peak comedy.
These people aren’t genuine or serious, they just come onto the forum to complain about what kills them. They don’t care about balance.
i mean everyone has some bias, im not excluded either, but brief look at current 13.0s and even some 13.3 and its clear as day that Gripen C is nowhere near that ballpark.
Some of us, very little, as we speak objectively on the game’s balance and play a wide variety of vehicles. Some of us, it’s all of their talking points.
Competitive at evading missiles since it cant counter attack much with FOX-3 or missiles in general.
It does, any plane that isnt a F-16 and can carry more than x4 FOX-3 will win againts the Gripen.
Sorry, you lack the experience at top tier if you are saying that, or at least you didnt fight someone that isnt just bad, the Gripen is only good at fighting the first 4 FOX-3, after that it will be an easy target to everything else since you cant force the enemy to go defensive, it will be rushed, and will die.
This sums it up well:
How can’t it engage with fox3? Or sidewinders?
Not how that will go bud.
???
What kind of argument is this? I am speaking as air RB as a whole, this includes the fact the average player is terrible. That is assumed from the jump to begin with…
Gripen won’t win against a GOOD rafale/eurofighter pilot sure… but it takes NOT A LOT of skill to where the gripen will win because they aren’t that mismatched. All it takes is for the gripen pilot to be a better pilot…
It’s almost like this guy hasn’t figured out that he can return back to base to equip more AIM 120s, RB-99s, or R-Darters.
You have 6 missiles, 4 of wich are FOX-3 and 2 FOX-2 that are easly to flare, after that you are naked against the enemy.
It is exactly as it would go.
I dont care about your stats, you can look at mines if you want, you have a total of 5 planes than can use FOX-3s and are at 13.7 or higher, therefore, you do lack the experience at top tier.
“Players are bad = plane is good” is a bad argument, you cant say that a vehicle is good because people at that BR are retards.
Please point at the plane that would lose againts a Jas39 if both pilots have the same skill (F-16´s doesnt count as previously stated)
