Well let me ask you this fine pilot, why do I do so well in the JF 17? Against all these “super planes”. That is a question, not a sarcastic remark.
With a scant 4 S10s and a couple of really good IRS?
Whats making the Eurofighters and Rafales so good?
What country has the best Gripen mate? I would like your respected opinion. After that Im going for Rafale
I miss the dominance of the Mig29 family.
I could be wrong but I think Japan’s (Thailand), Italy’s (Hungary) and Sweden’s Gripen Cs are all identical at the moment and so no real difference. Only Britain’s (South Africa) is different with the R-Darters instead of AMRAAMs and they are… wierd… They loft loads and are weaker at long ranges but dont have the close range dogfighting performance of the MICA or R-77. I’ve made them work and seem to be decently fast if nothing else, but its probably the weakest one.
Sweden does also get the Gripen A which is unique at 13.0 (without AMRAAM) but can apparently be quite fun in a downtier, but a chore in an uptier, but if you play any ASB then that would be a strong aircraft in the 13.0 brackets.
They should also get the Gripen E or NG which would be the strongest, AESA radar, positive TWR and the much needed extra hardpoints to name but a few upgrades the E gets.
I spaded F-16A at 13.0 recently and that was fine so I can say without a doubt that the Gripen A is fine at 13.0 even in uptiers… it’s still not difficult to get 1-2 kills per game
Didnt say you couldnt get kills, only that its probably a chore (as in takes a lot more effort). Having to spend the initial phases on the defensive until the fight goes WVR and then head in with only AIm-9M.
… No? When would I have said this? All I’ve said that is negative about the 13.0 IR planes is that you have to fly defensive for the first half of the game as you just said. This does not make them bad or overly difficult to play.
I would say go for the Italian Grippen. You get the MiG 29, Grippen, and Eurofighter. The Italian F-16 is weak, but hey, you get three amazing fighters and a very underwhelming F-16
It isn’t,it is perfectly fine for 12.7
1 Like
and more importantly you get the Tornados :P
For me it’s underwhelming. Unless you really like AIM 7s, I’d skip.
I feel like you said that because you know I dislike them.
If your parameter for 13.3 is SMT then it’s on you tbh.
1 Like
what is yours? there are not many 13.3s
Jeff and Obama 2 seater.
I don’t know enough about JF17 but I’m 99% sure the obama is worse than the gripen as well
They have working CM, worse missile suite. Though at least all 6 can be ARH, worse FM, and actually decent CAS loadout.
cas is separate from arb and if you take that away the obama just has 2 more arh missiles
I’d take the disadvantages if it means I get proper CM kit tbh.
gripen is very much fine on the CM front
1 Like