Is Sweden the best ground Nation?

Just curious.

By what metric?

Overal

Sweden has lot of good vehicles and is definetively worth grinding, but its not best overall with current state of things (Spearhead update).

Three main issues as I see it:

A) Their helicopter TT is dead in the water.

None of the countries they have operate traditional attack helicopters, and its likely not changing in the future. They have no way to gain FnF missiles as far as I know (IIRC there was a long shot that what was prolly norweigian seahawk could theoretically carry JAGMs but I would bet on it).

B) They currently dont have any TT heavy.

Both heavy tanks aviable to sweden arent researchable. One is a premium, other is BP reward.

C) They currently lack top tier SPAA.

Elde 98 was a mess last time someone talked about it, on top of lacking range and ammo supply; Ito while still good simply inst a material to counter KH38MTs/LMURs with.

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SPAAs no, Tanks great overall but chunky, Light tanks (i love them) and Finland got great tanks for sniping (Leopard 2A6) so tbh yeah it is good with some of the great jets (Gripen and skilled based F-16AM)

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you think they could add this?

Could?

Definetively.

Theres also some news article that Sweden wants to get IRIS-T SLM (because god forbid germany would have original top tier vehicle. Luckily no one wants to buy PUMA).

Will it be added?

Likely.

But we dont know when. Could be next patch, could be next year. Thats why Ive intentionally put disclaimer at the beggining, that this comment is about state of Sweden as of Spearhead update.

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just looking through the Wikipedia and Denmark/Norway got a lot of tanks (Leopard 2A7/2A8) or Arty and even SPAA like IRIS-T, VL MICA, SAMP/T NG and Skyranger 30. Now we just hope/wait Gaijin adds them

At top tier

Strongest MBTs

Fairly decent IFV/AFVs

Weak SPAA

Weak CAS.

So depends on whether you are looking just at MBTs or at the full line-up package

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thats great im so happy for sweden

Idk, saw a few German guys in game claiming Sweden is better. They have a F16 and a better SPAA and 3 armored Leos. Was grinding my Oplot and thought it was funny seeing the Elde called better than the SLM.

We can ignore the massive CV90120 nerf that makes it worthless lol

We haven’t gotten like any of those systems yet lol

well, sweden does currently indeed have two additional uparmored Leo 2s over germany. But thats it.

F-16 doesnt bring any capability that Hornet doesnt have, and SLM is obviously miles ahead of what sweden can field currently.

BUT

in the past?

In regards to CAS, yourr choice with Germany was either Tornado with LGBs, F-4F with whoppin two 65Bs or KWS with two 65Ds and no pod. It wasnt until swiss hornet that germany got multirole with FnF munitions AND pod (and bar the finnish hornets and premium variants, its arguably the worst top tier hornet for CAS duties due to pod placement).

In regards to SPAA, Ito90M was just straight up better than FlakRakRad because they had the same missile but Ito had 8 of them ready to fire.

In regards to tanks, there was a brief period between release of “Fire and Ice” and “Air Superiority” updates that there was no point to german top tier ground bar uptiering PUMA. Ito was better FlakRakRad, Strv122 was better 2A5 and sweden had two of those, and they also got 2A6 through finland. Even the capability provided by PUMA could be supplemented by CV90s. On top of having a CV90120 providing unique capability as tank cannon armed light.

Back then I was still into top tier ground and during that period between “Fire and Ice” and “Air Superiority” I was geniunely mad that I grinded germany and not sweden.

So you can imagine the emotions im going through whenever someone starts talking about all the stuff Sweden can still get either through its own military or through subtrees thats just german stuff.

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I geniunely hope none of the nordic states backtracks on their decision to accquire F-35s and doesnt go for Eurofighters instead and that none of them decides to get PuBos so that theres at least some pretense that Sweden isnt just Germany+.

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I say sweden is best described as bipolar personality type, it can be either your worst nightmare or your best dreams. Take a look at their tanks and decide it for yourself. Also make sure to look at their ammo you pick…
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Sweden is good at high tier, but the rest of the tree is pretty bad.

To my knowledge we plan to drop the F-35 eventually after the whole thing with the US and Grønland. Currently it would be bad to drop them for now but i know we have talks to keep using US jets for now and in the future look at some stuff.

Honestly EFT or Rafale are the likely candidates as the Gripen still uses US parts which makes it less appealing

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