I mean what did you expect after the hostile actions lol. That we’d just ignore their threats and keep buying stuff? Its not feasible to drop them right now but the plans to look at replacements are in discussion
Oh dont get me wrong.
I completly understand the IRL stuff.
Im malding over Sweden possibly getting EFT through Denmark.
@Beeschurger Its for the best you dont know about the HX program nor the Halli air trials lol
If Sweden is the favorite nation everyone claims it is then they should be afraid, i doubt it would happen but im also not the snail
Best Ground Nation?
Questionable.
Ground Tree is amazing! Besides AA at top tier, they pretty much have a great lineup at the most popular BRs (6.7, 9.7-12.7).
Helicopter tree is empty. AHS is a AH-64A and is pretty much going to be the final helicopter for Sweden for a while. By Smin’s account, they cannot really think of a helicopter that fits. None of the Scandi countries use Attack Helicopters (even the AHS and Mi-28 (their only helis past 9.7) are trialed!), nevermind the fact that the only heli between 11.7 and 9.7 is a premium Mi-28.
Zero Heavy tanks, most vehicles are fairly squishy until Mid-Late MBTs, early APDS is doggy doodoo and not every lineup is good or competitive.
They recently got good CAS in the form of the F-16AM and Mosquitos, but for the most part CAS isn’t great. It gets the SAAB-105G with super early bomb computers, but everything else is kinda mid.
Like @Morvran said for top tier,
Strongest MBTs, decent-good Lights, weak AA and decent CAS. I think Sweden is a tree worth grinding but it isn’t the best.
out of all the nations (for top tier) imo;
USA has good MBTs, good lights, decent CAS and good AA. + great Heli
GER has great MBTs, decent lights, decent CAS and the best AA. + meh Heli
USSR has good MBTs, great lights, best CAS and great AA. + best Heli
UK has meh MBTs, meh lights, meh decent CAS and good AA. + okay Heli
Japan has great MBTs, decent lights, decent CAS and horrible AA. + okay Heli
China has meh MBTs, decent lights, decent CAS and bad AA. + great Helis
Italy has good MBT (no plural), good lights, decent CAS and good AA. + meh Heli
France has good MBTs, good lights, good CAS and good AA. + okay Heli
sweden
Israel has bad MBTs, bad lights, decent CAS and horrible AA. + bad heli
*open to debate, not perfect because i dont play all nations at top tier
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I can’t agree with your opinion. Israel’s CAS capabilities are quite strong in the game, and the Namer is also an excellent light tank. Additionally, the CAS capabilities of the UK and Germany are almost identical—both rely on the Hornet and Eurofighter, but the UK’s light tanks are relatively weak. As for Japan, I currently consider it to have the worst CAS capabilities, and its light tanks are also very poor.
This. They have some of the best armored mbts, and 3 of them. Arguably the best mbts since they are uparmored leos. I still prefer the leo2a7 over the strvs due to its better gun and gen 3 gunner thermals but thats personal preference. So to sum it up, 3 uparmored versions of the currently best performing mbts, but struggling with spaa, subpar helis and the gripen, which is a good cap plane but doesnt bring a large cas loadout (only gnss bombs can hold 4 per rack, tv guided agms replace 1 fox 3 for one agm so u can bring max 4 but then you need to rely on aim9ms. One of the best top tier light tanks which is extremely fun to snipe with due to it having the highest zoom of any tank in game on its commander sight (love putting rounds in t-series lower glacis or driver port precisely from 2 km out and the commander sight jump all over the place after each shot) and decent autocannon light tanks as support (though much lower br) that work vs close range cas.
In general: good ground lineup apart from aa in top tier but not that much to put the earned sp into. Most other brs are in general stacked, but lacking heavy tanks, in some brs lacking spaa and in general cas with not the most insane loadout (so that motto cuts through the whole tree) except for the saab105g as one of the lowest br planes with ccip. thing is a cas monster in ground rb
EDIT: oh forgot they got the norwegian f16 with two racks of 3 agm65ds now. well that would be the cas plane with best loadout then i guess so actually not that disadvantaged from us for example. still not in the top league of fixed wing cas nations like russia, france and the typhoon nations (if they have players which are very good with the brimstones)
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Yeah, and they’re both decent. Nothing particularly amazing or unique. FnF Brimstones would make them great.
Type 89 FV is pretty decent, even in 12.7 because it is small, mobile with a decent cannon. Missiles are nothing great but you can use it on unaware enemies. The fact is uses APDS with decent penetration means it can frontally penetrate a couple MBTs (Abrams, Merk (?)) and the postpen is insanely good. RCV is a great scout vehicle with the Bushmaster 30mm which is okay. Type 16 is mobile and fairly survivable with a good round. Also, Japan CAS is decent. F-16A OCU with KGGBs and 6x Mavs, F-2 with LJDAMs, JAS39C for amazing multirole CAS, etc. I’ve played Japan top tier the most, so I know that they aren’t anything crazy but definitely aren’t bad.
Mind amend this though ^^
I think the overall CAS capabilities of Japan and Sweden are similar; the only drawback is that the F-16 OCU lacks a thermal imaging pod,this makes it difficult for me to locate targets sometimes
Amended my post to make Sweden “decent CAS”, the F/A-18 MLU2 and new F-16 completely slipped my mind.
The MLU 2 has the smallest CAS selection as you dont get the BRU-55 rails like everyone else so your stuck with 4x bombs while everyone else has 8x so the F16 with only 45 internal countermeasures is the new best CAS jet on sweden. Too bad its listed as a fighter since its gonna be expensive as can be to call in.
i dunno,but i prefer finland, because i played 3 different nations in one tech tree (UK,Germany and Ussr). but to be honest,i enjoy swedish tech tree
Still would say it is decent. JAS39C + MLU both lack amount but they are both still decent. Not like many people are getting multikills with F/A-18s when it faces the strongest AAs.
Eh, tbf i dont play top tier that much anymore, FnF helis and no APS is pretty unfun imo. 9.x-10.x is my top tier nowadays lol