Is SPAA is too OP? (gepard or any of those kind)

the short answer is YES it is and alot of the CASS need to be forced into their roles by removing their AP rounds There is absolutely no excuse why you need tungsten rounds in a Gepard to shoot at planes but giving it those rounds probably makes it the best tank destroyer in the game but it’s not in the tank destroyer tree

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any CASS to include 8.0

They can complain anything that is flying. Then, like someone with a persecution complex, they imagine themselves belonging to the underdog, and never consider the issue of themselves(like someone aboves)Now they just used their amount totally destroy Strikers/bombers value, whats next?

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False. The community voting poll regarding nerfing APHE was actually leading a fair bit in regard to nerfing it to realistic behavior instead of the fantasy sphere of death we still have to deal with.

It’s just that the talentless APHE crutchers were screaming bloody murder in the forums and so Gaijin decided to ultimately do nothing about it.

No
Skill issue its xp pinata
Its just annoying when it gets u but it isnt op

Excuse me, a what piñata?

Missclicked
I meant xp piñata

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I’ll tell you what isn’t OP: one vehicle lineup with Rapier.

Oh I remember too well how it flipped overnight when some influential Russian CCs all told their legions to vote No to holding even a test.

But because of that, much as multiple semi-recent Reddit posts have stated - we have no grounds to complain about Falcon/35mm Oerlikon APHE rounds.

I really don’t get why people keep bringing this up, especially with 35 mm SAPHEI-T;
It won’t fix the ‘issue’, it won’t magically make the round incapable of cupola sniping or shredding lightly armoured targets.

It’s also a complete lie that it wasnt tested at all, you had both hit analysis and an additional mode on the Dance of Dragons DEV server;

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Like did everyone just suddenly forget that people got mad over gaijin “ignoring” the vote-results and pushing the test to DEV anyway?

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The only thing that didnt happen was the test on the LIVE-Server.
The mechanic itself was tested on DEV and would not have made the 35x228mm SAPHEI-T perform significantly worse than it currently does, it did not make it impossible to cupola-snipe, there was barely any difference when the round penetrates regularly.

I did actually grind a large chunk of the Vikcers Mk7 recently using only the Rapier, with first spawning the Rapier most matches

Though I was also putting myself in spots to scout when there was no air threats and the respawning in other things afterwards. The naturally defensive nature, means high survival times, but does mean sat AFK waiting for trade. Though funny hard countering someone first spawning a heli

But if you want to spade an SPAA, the only real option is to first spawn them, because being reactive just doesnt work

I saw multiple giant posts on the Reddit in recent weeks saying along the lines of “if you voted No for APHE changes you have no right to complain about 35mm APHE,” read them, and laughed quite a bit.

I am also aware it was tested on Dev on warmly received.

Unfortunately too many people would rather blame snail than look inward at what they themselves did wrong first.

People cope and lie about stuff on the subreddit all the time - especially when it comes to bug-reports.

Like people legit coped about a report on leclerc reload rate being accepted (they obviously dont understand or care to check what “accepted” means) because it only used 1 source (which was a primary source but they didnt mention that ofc).

And nobody bothers double-checking anything but instead just act as if anything and everything is some sort of conspiracy against their tech-tree or whatnot.

Which often buries proper discussions on stuff that should actually be adressed, such as RELICT and CONTACT-5 auto-destabilizing all APFSDS rounds (they’re the only ERA types to do so, even Oplots’ ERA with higher /same KE protection doesnt do this). Basically an aritifical buff to surviviability, be it intentional or not, discussing it becomes impossible because people will just cry “bias” and move on, without actually trying to get a semi-decent understanding of the situation at hand.

You basically described the entire state of the game in half a sentence. Bravo.

I have long thought this way regarding many “deep rots” in the game - CAS, BR Decompression, SPAAG tankbusting (this topic), the questionable post-pen of several tank ammunition types, Air RB objective structure, Ground RB objective structure, Naval RB objective structure, among many others.

I feel like the “haters”/“trolls” on each of these sorts of issues need not just ignoring, but active stomping out through changes designed with the side effect of making any further complaints be now able to be turned back on the would-be complainer. How that logic gets applied varies from issue to issue. Otherwise certain contemptible debates will never end…

lmao what now? Your guidance mode doesn’t even work
SPAA is so OP

Yeah, if they have a lineup then I have zero issues if someone first spawns Rapier or any other SPAA. But I always prioritise trying to win the round, spading vehicles is just a by-product of that.

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It’s only everyone stopped spawning planes to the extent that we have an SPAA Low Reward thread.

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Bro really believes it’s SPAA should be like fixed assets haha

Should I control you device to help you select OSA-AKM? Spaa players love to complain

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