wonderful and remember if MCM is removed anti air cant defend itself I don’t understand why you guys thing anti air can shot down a kh38 a very speedy missile but not a fox3 to fox3 it just makes sense a NASAMS with aim120 can do it to a kh38 but a f-15 shouldn’t be able to do it to a r77 or pl12 anti air also does this to mach 4 anti radiations in game like it should be able to
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There’s a difference between shooting down a large A2G munition in an SPAA vs shooting at a smaller ARH missile from an aircraft with another small ARH missile.
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yk planes will soon have something called hard kill APS yes for planes for shooting down incoming missile meaning it is 100% logical in game to succesfuly MCM in game a player must not be turning aggressively or the missile will not connect and McM to counter missile in real life with APS a radar is needed meaning a very powerful radar like f16s radar in war thunder should easily be able to pick up a missile
and explain how Russian AA shots down GBU39s a small diameter bomb in game and in real life this shouldnt be hard for it
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Hardkill APS on aircraft? That’s got to take the cake for things I’ve seen on the forums
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yes for helis mostly and in development but this wouldnt be thing if the APS radar couldn’t pick up or detect the missile incoming at mach 2 we also have something called Ships can McM in real life against a mach 10 missile and ICBM (mach 20 missile) can be intercepted by a SM-3 or maybe SM-6 and we have a whole anti air system called THAAD for this very reason that McM is real nobody cares if you like it
Well, a relatively small missile that travels mach 3-4 vs a bomb with a glide package that flies subsonic is very different.
the glide bombs RCS is very small yet it can be shot down in real life and game and you still never said anything about the mach 3 ARMs that can be shot down In real life and in game like it should be using a simple aim120 on a nasams LD-10 can be shot down in game and real life NASAMS protecting itself and LD-10 is a air to air missiles made ARMs and they aren’t relatively small aim120 is 12 feet long much bigger than the scout drones that can be found by the worst radars in game
McM is logical because if you try to be top gun then your McM wont connect because the missiles flight path is no longer predictable thats why a player flys in a straight line for McM to connect
when a 35G missile like aim120 is being fired It speeds up very quickly so lets say its closing in at mach 2 it wont be as manuverable even pulling 35Gs vs if it was going mach 1 the turn rate widens meaning a accelerating mica EM that can pull 50Gs can and should be able to easily McM it in real life if pilot can get a lock In time of the closer rate and McM with IR missile is another level a aim120 can reach heats 1,000°F close to lava and the burner can reach heats of 5000+ degrees a IR missile should easily be able to lock and guided its self to that hind of heat
I would also like to know why you guys don’t think McM is realistic you have nothing backing it
Maybe AA is more suited for it? Either way, MCM is not a good game mechanic and it isn’t the most realistic for planes to shoot down other aircrafts missiles.
Even if it is realistic it’s an awful game mechanic and should be removed.
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tell me why its not realistic I have many logical reasons why McM works in real life you got 0 you just don’t like it because it annoys you and a anti air with a f16 radar can McM with its proxy fuse so AA in war thunder isnt “more suited”
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radars have locked fans and you guys don’t think it can lock a 12 foot long missile
the radar proxy fuzes used on almost every missile arent able to fuze on a target as small as a missile
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the radar dosent see the lenght of a missile comming towards it
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yes but it has a RCS why do you think f22 is stealthy because it doesn’t have a RCS of a b-52 you think you sound smart , let me just tell you think before you speak
a bigger object has more size for more radar reflectivity
There’s a different thing to see something on the radar, and another to get a fire solution for the same thing.
I can for the life of me not understand why people are so hell-bent on keeping MCM. It’s a shit mechanic.
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if I can see it , lock it then I can shot it in war thunder I know ARH missiles need a lock meaning if I get any sort of hard or soft lock I can shot a missile and McM should be kept because you guys have 0 arguments of why it should be removed that’s not about “balance”