iTs nOt tHe tAnk, iT’s tHe pLaYers
Clickbait was released during the Update “Air Superiority” December 14th 2023.
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Those are 2019 and 2020. The actual changes are:
Before Clickbait: 44.5%
A month after Clickbait: 38.858%
Two months after Clickbait: 37.937%
Six months after Clickbait: 37.209%
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The vast majority of clips showed hits from MBT’s, not autocannons.
You claimed I was lying, I then presented videos that showing me taking countless hits from various opponents, including Leopard 2’s, T-80’s, etc.
There’s also plenty of top-tier MBT’s with worse survivability that would’ve certainly died from the autocannon hits to the side.
I’ve got nearly 2K kills in my M1A1, even if only 40% are up-tiers that’s still 700-800 kills against top-tier opponents.
Your stats on the Warrior are sitting on a 29% winrate and negative K/D, ‘‘you must be so bad’’.
Goes both ways mate.
At least my stock M1A2 is still on a 1.5 K/D.
Cherry-picking a vehicle that someone only has an extremely small sample size on, and then acting as though that’s representative of anything is something I can do as well as anyone.
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Ah I should have clarified. When Gaijin messed up the Abrams, W/L rate dropped from 76% to 48% a total of 28% change. Clickbaits only dropped the W/L rate 7%. If the Abrams wasn’t screwed it’d only be a 69% W/L rate after Clickbait was added
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Abrams was actually buffed multiple times in the time that the winrate dropped from 76% to 48%.
The reason why the winrate was 76% in your first screenshot to begin with is fotm. Iirc 09-12 was like a month after the M1A2 was released as the only top tier MBT in said update, so of course multi nation players flocked to it.
Same way that the Leopard 2 PSO seriously increased German top toer winrates, while the tank itself is pretty much a sidegrade at best compared to the 2A6.
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who cares its one persons account of cherry picked situations compared to the literal mountain of data showing otherwise.
and? This just proves my point.
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHH yeah yeah lmao cherry picking a tank i played like 2 times that is probably one of the worst tanks in the entire game lmao cope more. Also picking a tank that has no bearing on this conversation at all, classic.
and 17% win rate, k/d is easy to farm I know I have high k/d as you saw. But win rate shows overall team contribution plus overall TEAM success. What this shows is that you camp like a bot and have 0 impact on games. And also proves that america teams full of trash abrams lose a lot because you sure are not carrying the teams your on. What you omitted is that my 80% overall win rates are far better than yours and my k/d are better. So what is it? You are not good enough to pull stats on me so you need a better argument than “i do well in them.”
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It’s fun bc the entire Abrams series took a interesting hit from the detailed modules such as the hydraulic pump. It is, without joking, the solely reason i don’t play US top tier anymore, period. If you survive a hit, you get the hydraulic disabled 92% of the time, and in the end, is the same result as getting hit on any aiming drive, but on a much more sensitive module.
It was such an unnecesary low-key nerf to an already struggling platform.
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At this point I’d just be happy if Gaijin would just removed the duffel bags from the bustle wrack of the Abrams. No one would go in to combat like that… At the expense of sounding silly; it’s immersion breaking. I would never have done that with my duffel bag. No one would have. I don’t know why Gaijin thinks anyone would.
Unless it’s just more of the typical “ha ha Americans weird” crap from Gaijin, which, wouldn’t surprise me.
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‘‘My M1’s regularly tank up to 11+ hits’’
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‘‘Nah, you’re lying’’
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Shows multiple examples
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‘‘Who cares, cherry-picked examples’’
Look, if you’re going to move the goalpost and deflect at every turn, why do you even bother arguing in the first place?
The manner in which you’re arguing also comes off as rather insecure/child-like. Just discuss the topic and present arguments with supporting evidence.
Given the amount of hours you’ve got in the game, I’ll guess you’re not 13 years old so the ‘‘HAHAHA lmao cope’’ just makes me worry about your mental state.
That’s literally what you’re doing.
In fact, you’ve got more battles played in that Warrior than I do in my M1A2, yet you saw no issues pulling that M1A2 stat card.
Pot calling the kettle black?
Surely you’ll have noticed I don’t play CAS, I don’t enjoy it nor do I have any of those aircraft researched.
I’m also a solo player, I don’t squad up nor am I even in a squadron, yet my M1’s are still between a 61-74% winrate. If you want to argue that I don’t contribute to the team with that in mind, you better not look silly saying it.
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They fought against export version T- 72s with about 100mm less protection against kenetic rounds. 72bs were never in Iraq , that is a tank from the 1980s Irag never had access to it.
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Yes, T-72M’s which are Identical to A’s.
if they had a scoring section for amount of bases taken captured im pretty sure necrons would be dead last.
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Iraqi actually had its own factory where it was making T-72’s, they had east germans helping them as well, and there were reports some tanks had a thermal device equipped.
That is correct a lot of the 72s were made in Iraq, about thermals never heard or seen them on Iraqi 72s but it wont surprise me if they had some 72s with thermals. However, no match for m1a1s with A1 shells about 600mm of penetration perhaps slightly more sabot rounds.
The overall data does not corroborate what you are saying, you are just bringing up anecdotal evidence that is cherry picked. You have no idea what you are talking about let alone have any standing to call someone insecure. Also cope.
yeah because you are a padder that was part of my point, you only played the best tank because you meta chased. You are not connected to the heart of the problem and are only using the best case scenario to base your opinion. A very low IQ take and just shows your intellectual dishonesty.
Just another massive cope, I never mentioned cas nor does it have any relevance to this discussion. Your CHOICE to not take part in a large part of being successful in ground battles is not my problem. I also play solo on stream with 80% wins its not like that means anything to this discussion. Since good players can solo carry games, you dont or cant so that is why I brought up that point. Leaning on cant its not entirely your fault which is the whole reason this thread exists. The abrams is trash and when your team consists of trash tanks vrs far far better vehicles it is almost impossible to win outside of perfect play and or 4 man squad. The whole point here is to bring the abrams and other top tier tanks in line or closer in performance to the leopards to make the game more fun and more balanced. Why you are on this crusade to keep trash tanks trash literally makes no sense to me until I realized that you literally have only played 11.0 america, and really have no idea how bad things really are.
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I’m telling this to you, but this also goes to the rest of people here: stop talking w him, its ragebait is obvious. While it’s okay to debunk his rhetoric, going further it’s just a waste of time, like talking to soviet or german mains about the Abrams: they’ll ultimately play any card they possibly can to deny every reasonable issue at all.
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Whatever happened with these bug reports?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/GwwWu4Zof46T
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hn6WHPVB7r3K
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Not a player problem?
https://thunderskill.com/en/stat/ileaveuptiers/vehicles/r#type=army&role=all&country=all
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What exactly does my “stats” have to do with referencing bugs? I see you’ve NEVER played with anything higher than the (10.3) M1 in US ground. So you know nothing about how bad the top tier US ground is.
When Gaijin actually fixes the Abrams, HSTV-L and top tier SPAA, then and only then you can reference my player stats as the problem. You wouldn’t have posts like these to begin with it Gaijin made fixing these tanks priority.
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- I stated that in my personal experience, I often survive many hits.
- You then claimed I was lying.
- I show evidence that I’m not lying (which you obviously weren’t anticipating).
- You then move the goalpost and deflect at every turn.
So firstly, I very much doubt you have access to this mythical ‘‘Overall data’’ which shows how many hits every MBT sustains on average in War Thunder.
Secondly, I never claimed to be speaking generally, I can only speak for my own experiences which is exactly what I did.
I think this once again qualifies as: ‘‘Pot calling the kettle black’’.
This is just a repeat of your previous double-standards.
You’re fine with pulling my M1A2 stats which has a grand total of 6 matches, but take issue when I pull the stats of your Warrior with 7 matches.
Because I’ve got good stats in various MBT’s I’m a stat padder, but you having good stats with various MBT’s and CAS somehow doesn’t make you a stat padder.
Which is why I am not making any effort towards grinding the Strv 122’s and Leopard 2A7’s over the past 9 months.
I never claimed otherwise?
I merely explained how it’s a part of the game I don’t enjoy. I know full well that meta-chasers fully make use of CAS and how it’s the simplest way to carrying matches.
I also explained how my winrates would be the same as yours if I actually played CAS/squadded up.
I don’t blame the game for my playstyle not being optimal, however, to claim that I don’t contribute with virtually all of my most played vehicles having positive winrates makes you come off as rather silly.
Which I agree with?
I’ve said many times that the SEP v2 should’ve instead been the SEP v3.
I’ve got numerous bug reports on the US high tier stuff, including M1 Abrams armour bug reports.
I just point out the bad takes when people claim the M1A2 SEP is worse than any other MBT, and for some reason you seem to take that as me saying the M1A2 SEP is 100% fine and equal to a Leo.
Not exactly proving me wrong on my previous estimation of your character here.
Given that you’re not interested in any serious discussion and I don’t see this going anywhere productive, I’ll just block you.
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