But you don’t, no vehicles move under 0.7 unless the stats say they are too strong or not stronk enough like normal. Wdym you have to add more vehicles 0.7 and 17.0 are only related in the fact that 0.7 would have the same effect as decompression to 17.0. I don’t need to prove anything there also it’s already been mostly shown (work in progress)
Now I have time to properly un-pack this…
That P-51 is a 6.3 the Su-11 is a jet powered 7.3. Are you saying that that P-51 is only balanced at 6.3 because it “can” face a 7.3 jet and if it wasn’t for the “chance” of a full BR uptier it would be completely broken/OP?
In which case, why isnt that P-51 higher than 6.3? like 6.7/7.0 along side props like the Mk24 spitfire? The only reason I can think of for it to not be at that BR is because its not good enough to face 7.3-8.0s?
To me, this just seems like a rather insane way to balance the BRs currently.
Especially when you factor in the fact that uptiers aren’t just a roll of the dice, with a random chance of facing uptiers or downtiers. Its a loaded dice based upon your “experience” (at least that is what I’ve heard) which would explain why I am almost always, uptiered. In my usual 5.7 Spitfire, I find myself against 6.0-6.3s and its not uncommon to see 6.7s. Same in my current tank line-up. Im currently 10.0. I almost always see 10.3-10.7s.
So if it has to be a loaded dice that means some people are always at a disadvantage then prehaps we should cap that disadvantage to only 0.7
But I think there is maybe an even better solution, already in the game, and already working really really well
What if we scrapped it entirely?
Air SB currently operates on rotating EC brackets. That changes every 48 hours.
What if the same system was applied to ARB/GRB? (Hypothetically)
Could that eliminate all the issues with uptiers? You’d know what you would face before you hit play, and it would encourage different vehicles to be taken. Balancing is a little more simple because its predictable. and vehicles can be balanced based upon a 0.3 +/- not 1.0 +/-.
Personally if I knew without fail, what i was facing upfront, even if that meant a full BR uptier, then I’d be far less angry at the system than I am currently, where I have no choice in the matter and maybe i’d actually play more RB than I do currently
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Different issue, this is purely a pro-US main matchmaking that is padded by mere fact that they use about 100 Ju-288 against every single US fighter, it’s current BR is purely for statpadding purpose.
I regret becoming part of this thread
“Decompression as a whole is superior”
…instead we got ~200 vehicles compressed up but no increase of the BR cap…
The BR cap was already increased from 11.0 to 11.7.
Last I checked, 11.7 - 11.0 is 0.7.
And BRs raised recently by 0.3, not 1.0.
No compression occurred.
You can’t fool us.
Yea sure… The number of vehicles between 8.0 and 9.0 did definetly not increase by a lot. The number of vehicles between 9.0 and 10. did not increase by a lot. The Number of vehicles between 10.0 and 11.7 did not increase by any meaningful amount.
So no there is massive compression at 8.0, 9.0 and to some extenmd up to 10.0
We have unstabilised APDS firing 105mm mediums fighting fully stabilised, Laser rangefinding APDSFS 105mm armed lights not even a full BR above them. The Tam is 0.7 higher than the T54s and the Leo. This is the very definition of Compression. The TAM is at least 200% more capable than a Leo or T54 yet it sits only 0.7 above… A Gap which should not be biggerr than 70% by Gajins current standarts.
And stop talking about “Us”. It is a singular you as it was the entire time. Everyone else disagrees with you.
Thanks for admitting to being against decompression this entire time, and assuming the entire community is pro-compression.
Just cause the decompression is minor doesn’t mean things weren’t decompressed.
Yes, there is still compression, but there’s less compression than there was 8 months ago.
Not starting this again.
You are the most pro compression player I ever met and that will never change. And that is why everyone disagrees with you. Everyone but you is pro decompression. You have proven beyond any doubt that you are pro compression. But you are literally incapable of realising that as this very threat shows.
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it will be good and will fix a lot of BR problems
It causes more compression problems for similar but different vehicles tho.
Such as Tiger 2, Maus, IS-3, and IS-6.
All similar vehicles, but different to each other enough to warrant different BRs.
No it does not.
It causes in your pro conpression world where you believe that the maximum BR range needs to shrink in a 0.7 world.
In your world, the maus needs to “go down to 7.0” to stay balanced.
Tiger II, Maus, IS-3 and IS 6 all retain different BRs in a 0.7 world. Well all but yours.
Stop lying
Then your world unbalanced & the game is killed.
Either you’re pro-decompression like myself, or you’re not.
No one you’ve spoken to has lied.
No.
I am 100% pro decompression and you are 100% pro compression.
You want the T 44 to be able to meet the Maus which is compression.
You want the T54 to be able to meet TAM 2s
Those are all compression you want.
You are constantly spreading fake news, lies and outright wrong statements without any context.
Every single statement you made is based on your own assumption of what should happen instead of what is proposed. So you are actively ignoring the proposal and argue against it using your own imaginations.
You somehow agree with the proposal of Shadow_CZ which increases BRs to 16.7 but disagree with 0.7 matchmaking despite the fakt that in both systems the Maus would nolonger be able to meet current 6.7 or 8.7 vehicles, making the result of both systems identical.
You ignored rhis poit 12 times and will certainly do again this time.
You do not realise this. You are a walking case of Dunning-Krueger
Nope. Never once mentioned T-44 in my posts.
Hold on… I think I have something.
Wow, the opposite of your claim.
You call others liars but you post incorrect statements about others.
Tiger II is 6.7 as is T 44. Tiger II can not meet the Maus as opposition so i choose another 6.7 tank. You want the Maus to be able to meet 6.7 tanks. That is your whole point.
Nope. My claim is not about light tanks but about yoir claim that there was no compression in the last BR changes. So again you are missquoting and lying.
Also, while we’re at it: let’s do away with fractional BRs. Just have integer BRs, instead of having the players wondering “Why does 7.3 increases by 0.3 from 7.0, but next BR is 7.7 which is a 0.4 increase?”
This is needless complication.
There are two reasons for that.
- The real BR is 0.33 and 0.66 so it is rounded
- Gajin wanted to avoid having their Tiers extend to far out. If we made each BR a seperate Tier like WoT we would some day approach Tier 100, which would cause problems of its own.
The 0.7 proposal is therefore nothing but a proposed chnage from a +/-3 MM range to a +/-2 MM range like in other similar games. It just sounds more complicated.
We could go 34+ BRs on a 4 BR matchmaker.
Same result.
I’ve said it many times ALL light tanks need to go up. No exceptions.
Agreed on light tanks. Currently, the game is heavily skewed towards them. To me this is one of the most important balancing issues faced by the game currently.