In real life pilots do not eject before getting hit. IIRC; in some countries doing so would be equated to desertion.
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In which world?
In addition to these HUD videos, there are many other instances where pilots have either ejected or died because of missile hits, just like Sidra bay incident in 1981, Greek M2K kills Turkish F-16D in 1996, Turkish RF-4E gots killed by Syrian SAMs in 2012 etc
This is more of a big design flaw than anything else.
It will annoy people and ruin matches, so something has to be done about it.
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yes they do, they just dont eject at any missile fired
they eject when they are sure they cant defeat the missile/enemy
it all depends on pilot experience, their plane and enemy plane and missile they are facing.
for a fully loaded F4E/A10 to dogfight something like a viggen especially once it got behind it is basically suicide irl
I would love to see some proof of that. I might be wrong, who knows, but honestly, i’m like 99% sure that most countries train their pilots to not eject unless the plane is actively going down and ejecting when it only might go down is legally regulated.
yes, there are regulations in place to prevent premature ejection but is a pilot of a10/su25/other heavy aircraft ejecting when a much superior plane intercepts them and they are sure to die really unrealistic?
obviously they dont have to wait until they actually are decimated and gamble if they will survive first impact
I dont know if any sane pilot would for example try to fight a f16 in a su25 especially if it caught the su rear/side aspect.
you wouldnt eject just because a aim120 is coming at you from long distance but you surely would if that f16 started sniffing your rear end
Although not a Su-25, there is the example of the Soko J-21, which was forced against the F-16 in Kosovo or somewhere.
They literally engaged the F-16s, but no one bailed out before hitting the AMRAAM or Sidewinder.
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I would say so yes, ejecting is the absolute last option, when all else has failed. Edit: I don’t know if everyone is taught the same but i know pilots are even instructed to, if possible, guide a plane that is 100% going down to try to aim for a spot that doesn’t hurt innocents on the ground when it crashes and only eject right before crossing minimum altitude.
Define “have to” , by law they might have to, but by the nature of having the option there is nothing physically stopping them from doing it. its like saying “i don’t have to wait for a green light when driving” , like, sure? there is nothing physically stopping you from running a red light, but the rules and regulations are still there.
they did what they could which is hide behind mountains
there is not enough info on the situation but it could be anything, maybe they believed they lost the f16s, maybe their ejection seats didnt work (it was old junk)
Yeah, and we complain about matchmaking, eh?
Your theory implies that no planes would exist that made it back to base after a hit since they eject before the missile hits.
Well guess what
You mean their ejection seats they used to eject after getting shot down? Yeah they surely must have not worked
Even in the Falklands when Pucaras (piston engined attack aircraft) were bounced by Sea Harriers they didn’t eject prematurely.
Surely he also punched out because there were 6 missiles fired at him simultaneously
Guess the RAF Rivet Joint Crew that was fired on twice by Suchois in 2022 also immediatly bailed because they are in an airliner against fighter jets
Do you even have a single case in History where that happened?
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Not to mention the risks coming with an Ejection is not something you take lightly
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Iirc in the f-16s case he didn’t have working countermeasures either
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Even if that were the case, that would more likely than not be considered a kill for the engaging aircraft.
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Definitely seems the case for US in WW2:
. The enemy aircraft had to be airborne, heavier than air, manned, and armed. Destruction involved shooting an enemy aircraft down, causing the pilot to bail out, intentionally ramming the airplane to make it crash, or maneuvering it into the ground or water. If the enemy airplane landed, despite its degree of damage, it was not counted as destroyed.
One of my greatest annoyances with Sim. 1% is just not small enough.
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Yeah, it’s really not well implemented. I got elevator trim assigned to a slider axis, but even like this it’s imposible to trim to neutral. Works with any other flight sim and the same slider perfectly though…
It’s one of my pet peeves. In general, WT is’nt very well when it comes to basic aeronautic technology. They have for example SAS and level hold as two steps of the same function, and trimming is not possible with SAS engaged, which makes no sense.
And still not a single working flight path marker… = /
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Level Hold is also a great annoyance to me since it doesn’t actually make you fly level, you’ll slowly (or not so slowly) lose altitude over time since it just points you straight at the horizon.
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I have to say I’m more annoyed with how the Hortas support is, I have physical flip switches on mine and for once the game sometimes just don’t registers them being switched so I have to flip them franticly until it registers input again.
When I go into the menu or open the chat and then press esc/enter it resets the virtual position of the switches which leads to me often losing my gear XD
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