What a strange and specific thing to ask.
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Players rig lobbies for PvE only in a PvPvE game mode, I do PvP and kill them, and Im the “punishers” or whatever? Yeah lmao ok buddy. Get good or get clapped.
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Point is: If I put bushes on my tank it’s a viable tactic to protect myself, and not intentinally to annoy others. It’s also something that happens in real life an makes my vehicles look more “alive”.
And if I buy a premium, it’s also not to annoy others, but usually also to help grinding. Nothing wrong with that, that’s what those are for. Or I might just want that specific vehicle because I like it. Or - indeed - maybe I want to play higher up even if I have not ground myself so far up yet. Nothing wrong with that either, but understandably tricky. But I doupt players would buy and use a premium with the intent to annoy others.
But leaving a vehicle instead of fighting as soon as there is a possibility for another player to engage, that’s quite a different level.
It’s a bit like calling remis in chess, as soon as there is a check situation.
For me - sorry - this is pre-kindergarden level. “Pre”, as latest in kindergarden kids will learn that it’s no fun playing with kids that stop playing as soon as the game doesn’t go their way…
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if we are on topic of what happens in real life then ejecting when a missile that will kill you is coming is also realistic.
In real life pilots do not eject before getting hit. IIRC; in some countries doing so would be equated to desertion.
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In which world?
In addition to these HUD videos, there are many other instances where pilots have either ejected or died because of missile hits, just like Sidra bay incident in 1981, Greek M2K kills Turkish F-16D in 1996, Turkish RF-4E gots killed by Syrian SAMs in 2012 etc
This is more of a big design flaw than anything else.
It will annoy people and ruin matches, so something has to be done about it.
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yes they do, they just dont eject at any missile fired
they eject when they are sure they cant defeat the missile/enemy
it all depends on pilot experience, their plane and enemy plane and missile they are facing.
for a fully loaded F4E/A10 to dogfight something like a viggen especially once it got behind it is basically suicide irl
I would love to see some proof of that. I might be wrong, who knows, but honestly, i’m like 99% sure that most countries train their pilots to not eject unless the plane is actively going down and ejecting when it only might go down is legally regulated.
yes, there are regulations in place to prevent premature ejection but is a pilot of a10/su25/other heavy aircraft ejecting when a much superior plane intercepts them and they are sure to die really unrealistic?
obviously they dont have to wait until they actually are decimated and gamble if they will survive first impact
I dont know if any sane pilot would for example try to fight a f16 in a su25 especially if it caught the su rear/side aspect.
you wouldnt eject just because a aim120 is coming at you from long distance but you surely would if that f16 started sniffing your rear end
Although not a Su-25, there is the example of the Soko J-21, which was forced against the F-16 in Kosovo or somewhere.
They literally engaged the F-16s, but no one bailed out before hitting the AMRAAM or Sidewinder.
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I would say so yes, ejecting is the absolute last option, when all else has failed. Edit: I don’t know if everyone is taught the same but i know pilots are even instructed to, if possible, guide a plane that is 100% going down to try to aim for a spot that doesn’t hurt innocents on the ground when it crashes and only eject right before crossing minimum altitude.
Define “have to” , by law they might have to, but by the nature of having the option there is nothing physically stopping them from doing it. its like saying “i don’t have to wait for a green light when driving” , like, sure? there is nothing physically stopping you from running a red light, but the rules and regulations are still there.
they did what they could which is hide behind mountains
there is not enough info on the situation but it could be anything, maybe they believed they lost the f16s, maybe their ejection seats didnt work (it was old junk)
Yeah, and we complain about matchmaking, eh?
Your theory implies that no planes would exist that made it back to base after a hit since they eject before the missile hits.
Well guess what
You mean their ejection seats they used to eject after getting shot down? Yeah they surely must have not worked
Even in the Falklands when Pucaras (piston engined attack aircraft) were bounced by Sea Harriers they didn’t eject prematurely.
Surely he also punched out because there were 6 missiles fired at him simultaneously
Guess the RAF Rivet Joint Crew that was fired on twice by Suchois in 2022 also immediatly bailed because they are in an airliner against fighter jets
Do you even have a single case in History where that happened?
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Not to mention the risks coming with an Ejection is not something you take lightly
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Iirc in the f-16s case he didn’t have working countermeasures either
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Even if that were the case, that would more likely than not be considered a kill for the engaging aircraft.
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Definitely seems the case for US in WW2:
. The enemy aircraft had to be airborne, heavier than air, manned, and armed. Destruction involved shooting an enemy aircraft down, causing the pilot to bail out, intentionally ramming the airplane to make it crash, or maneuvering it into the ground or water. If the enemy airplane landed, despite its degree of damage, it was not counted as destroyed.