Indonesian Sub-tree: Bhinneka Tunggal Ika!

I personally still like this subtree and could see it as a combined one with Thailand or even implemented as a sub nation without dedicated line like India seems to be for Britain, Norway for Sweden, Argentina for Germany etc.

I’d say it would still fit pretty well combined with Thailand and having options from both allows Gaijin to focus more on unique additions from both nations rather than having to rely on exact copies of vehicles too much.

However I also don’t think second subtrees for any nation should be a priority at all until the nations that need them have received basic subtrees (so apart from Japan that would be China, France and Israel). I still see it as a possibility, considering even with both subtrees Japan is nowhere near what the US or USSR could offer alone, but it is not needed and priorities should be set accordingly.

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SU-30 With KH-31

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Pindad Cobra Prototype

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BTR-4

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Silas Papare

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Harimau

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Pindad Cobra With 30 mm Gun

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Pindad Badak

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Antasena

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I forgot about the Cobra and BTR-4M, nice 🤙

images of the recent vehicle delivery for the Army:

- 10x Harimau MT

- 3x Badak IFV

- 10x Cobra 8x8/Pandur II IFV (30mm) fitted with additional floatation kit


The green circles are their mounting points

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Man, such a solid lineup of quality/unique vehicles.

Would be good to if the Indonesian vehicles like the Harimau Hitam and the Badak become premiums. And the Leopard 2RI can be abit similar to the Leopard 2PL

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U got my Support +1
Maybe a sub-Tree to the Turkish Tech Tree?
Because of the Harimau/Kaplan MT.

you could use the Harimau to larp as a T-14 armarta from wish

Just a quick side note/fyi, no need to make a suggestion for the planes, as I’m currently making them. It’s just taking a bit longer than expected, but I’m almost done with it!

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Forgot to put this here, but recently the 10 Harimau MT has been put in active service, with 9 being put in the YonKav13, they replaced the older AMX-13 tanks. Dunno where the other Harimau is being stationed though

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For the Aircrafts, I already submitted the suggestion and its currently pending, so we’ll just have to wait and see

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Its surprising that the Scorpion 90 is not more discussed. Just found out about it and its actually a unique variant that the British didnt adopt. It was actually Indonesia who adopted the most amount of units with about 121 units ordered in total.

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Video from indonesian Ministry of Defense

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A little fun fact of the PT-76, they’re equipped with a pintle mounted DShK, atleast during active operations on Timor Leste, could be useful ingame maybe

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For the Yonkav 2, I recently suggested it with a lot more information, so if people wanna check it out you can do so here, i might miss something though so if any of you have corrections please do let me know

PT PINDAD AMX-13/105 Retrofit (Yonkav 2) - Indonesia’s modernization program for the aging AMX-13 fleet

Also, a question for Hisar-O, since Indonesia is going to buy it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1784380992456970454

does anyone know whether it can function on its own or does it need a separate radar vehicle?
If its independent then it could be a good tier 8 SPAA I think

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Maybe a sub-Tree for turkish Tech Tree

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just a heads up, the aviation side is up and suggested, so if you want to see & discuss about the aircrafts you can go there. o7

Indonesian Aviation Sub-Tree: Bhinneka Tunggal Ika!

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here are some additional tanks that I don’t think have been mentioned yet


PT-76 Roket (Palawa Tank) w/ BM-14-17 (colloquially called the TAPIR)

The name is most likely from the soviet name of плавающий танк or plavayushchiy tank, as usual with the naming scheme of the armed forces they take the first few syllables and call the tank that. some call it the TAPIR but the official museum label doesn’t call it as such

Standard PT-76 but with the cannons removed and switched to the BM-14-17 MLRS and apparently manned with 6 crews

This tank now displayed in the Marine Corps Museum in Sidoarjo





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Yonkav 2 Pre-Production

Basically the testbed for the full production of the Yonkav 2 Tank.

The difference between the pre and post production is that The turret on the pre-production version seems to be the old FL-12 turret but with a CN-105-G1 installed. Meanwhile on the production Yonkav 2, the turret was changed to the JT-1 turret with the FCS made by indra Sistemas and was moved to the box above the ammunition storage

Another difference is that the hull is still the old AMX-13/105 Mle58s unlike the production Yonkav 2 with its own different hull

The difference between this one and the AMX-13/105 FL-12 G1 is that this one is just testing for the Yonkav 2, while the AMX-13/105 FL-12 G1 is an actually produced upgrade version for the older versions of the FL-12s



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AMX-13/105 FL-12 SM1 (CN-105-G1)

Standard AMX-13/105 with the FL-12 turret but with an upgraded CN-105-G1 instead of the older 105-57. Doesn’t have the upgraded FCS

The easiest way to tell the difference between the 57 and the G1 is the muzzle brake, The G1 has one circular shape, while the 57 has two Bowtie-esque shape.

In the image below you can see three AMX-13/105 Mle58s, two on the left has the upgraded CN-105-G1s , while one on the right has the older 105-57

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LAV-150 Mecar Gun 90mm (Cadillac Gage)

Cadillac Gage armed with the Low-pressure Mecar 90mm/L28 cannon capable of firing APFSDS-T, HEP-T, and HEAT with 350mm of armor penetration



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LVT with a 75mm M8 turret (I think)

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Anoa-2 6x6 PK20 (20mm autocannon)

Fitted with LRF, thermals, day camera. 20mm autocannon and 7.62mm secondary. The PK20 Turret is just a renamed version of the South-African LCT20 turret.


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Anoa FSV 90mm (Cockerill Mk.3)

Precursor to the Badak FSV. Armed with the cockerill Mk3 gun same as the one fitted on the FV scorpion 90

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Alvis FV601 Saladin (Retrofit)

Armed with the Royal Ordnance 76 mm L5A1. The Indonesian retrofit changes the petrol engine to a Perkins Phaser Diesel 160T with 6 cylinder 4 stroke turbocharged engine, although the max speed drops from 72km/h to 70km/h. Other upgrades include a periscope like the FV scorpion tanks and a winch


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SBS Light Tank (R-HAN 122 MLRS)

Pindad’s “Light tank” armed with the 122mm R-HAN 122A MLRS

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SBS Light Tank (20mm)

similar to the previous, but with a 20mm autocannon instead

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also if you’re wondering, here’s a view inside the crew compartments of the harimau MT

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I don’t know if this is relevant but i remembered a tankette that is based from the British’s universal carrier and all i know is that it’s just prototype (maybe?) And was never seen in battle

Modified universal carrier

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Also found a Twitter thread but sadly it’s in Spanish, i hope someone will find this in a way helpful (i hope)

https://x.com/LongoPetronio/status/1356672504014725129

Hopes this helps :']

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Cool finding! its a long post, But tldr: it`s mostly about the context of the restructuration of indonesian armed forces under japan , the equipment they brought, the sparking of the indonesian indepence movement and the resistence against anglo-indian forces trying to restore holland rule.

The vehicle itself its an universal carrier , one of several captured vehicles by the japanese from Malasia and Singapur brough to the country, mated with the turret of a Sumida type 91/93 armored car ,so armed with a type 91 6.5mm machine gun in the turret and the bren gun in the hull, the modification was likely made by the japanese to equip themselfs or the newly formed Pembela Tanah Air (PETA) for policing action.

Tough only the one example is known to be used by indonesia Andrew Morrison in his book “Making Tracks” reports that there could have been one or two more examples of them as the Autralian troops encountered similar japanese coverted tanks in New Guinea

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