The explanation contained in my post was nothing more than an explanation, not an opinion.
My opinion is that they should be moved up.
Russian one has to go up as well.
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fakour 90 is very easy to avoid
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Yes, that’s the whole point… we have been talking about extreme close-range combat. Fox 3 wil be more useful in this situation than Fox 1.
r27er is superior on such situations due to being more difficult to notch as you must defeat the aircraft’s radar not the missile, mica comes close though
fun fact, the F-15E, F-18E, and F-15C GE all have this. it would be fine at 14.0
not when the radar is the on the su30mk serie who are really bad.
lmao no it’s not, or do you think I don’t know what I’m talking about? I promise I’ve used it more than you …
stop pretending this is the n001 on release, it’s just as good as awg63
putting word that i never said ? calm yourself
not pretending any radar can be notchable and even the n001vep lose lock when enemy chaff, when relock the missile still goes for chaff ( r27er ). both bvr and wvr
The 13.3 Su-30s? They’d be awful at 14.0, and are worse than numerous 13.7s. However they still should be 13.7 (and a few of those 13.7s could go to 14.0).
buddy you clearly have a tenuous gasp of how top tier works but I’ll try and be simple, the r27er is better than fox3 in the certain situations we laid out (again we not YOU) they’re more difficult to notch due to receiving guidance from the aircraft’s radar, nobody said it was impossible lmao. Also it has iog so it helps negate the chaff unlike other fox1
never said anything about the missile itself.
what i said is that it depend who what radar its getting used, notching a r27er comming from a su27 ( n001vep) and from su30sm2 ( ibris ) is night and day difference.
golly gee, you think so? have anyone incredibly obvious statements?, the n001 is very much a good radar and more than capable for 13.7 lmao
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literally, yes literally just a massive skill issue it’s not the radar. I have no issues myself.
N001 is an awful radar compared to every other TWS capable radar, especially once you reach 13.7.
worse of the best is still far from unusable it’s perfectly usable in an up tier as well, calling it awful is a lie and a slanderous one. you people are acting like it’s the same it was one release, the inability to change the tws scan zone size isn’t really that important, the inability to look up or down though can be annoying but you have an hms that can be used to achieve locks.
The RWR is only one of several factors that I mentioned that hold the Su-30s back, but lets compare them:
F-15E, GE and F/A-18E all have +/- 15* extra RWR coverage which is significant
now lets look at the other factors
They all have at basic NCTR on the 15E and advanced on the GE and F/A-18 to help avoid targeting munitions, the Su-30s do not have any so you have to guess based off speed.
All of them have 8 DL channels compared to the Su-30s 2 allowing them to guide 4 times the missiles at a time.
Both F-15s have higher TWR with the F-15E being massively higher.
Both the GE and F/A 18 carry double the amount of ARH missiles with a maximum of 12 each compared to 6.
Both F-15E/GE get BOL pods with an extra 240/640 CMs respectively, yes BOL is less effective but that’s still A LOT of extra CM
All the Su-30 has in its favor is a large payload of decent missiles, which is nothing to sneeze at until you advocate for putting it at a BR where everything else also has massive payloads of decent missiles AND better everything else.
I also have not seen anybody claim the high BR F/A18s are under BRed, in fact the majority opinion I have seen is that it’s a suffer bus.
13.7 would already put the Su-30s at the same BR with as good and better planes but with current compression that’s about as good as it could get as 13.3 is simply too low.
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A radar being aesas, PESA or mechanical has 0 effect on how difficult it is to notch a hard lock
okay so half your post is whining about higher br vehicles being better, which I’ll just respond to with “duh” (f15e/ge)
On the radar stuff however, ntcr is nice to have but far from a requirement, it’s pretty easy to judge a missile from an aircraft, you really shouldn’t be firing more than 2 missiles in bvr before at least one is within pitbull range either so that’s also not really an issue.
The fact of the matter is that they’re absolutely ruining the game around that be and a simple .3 br wouldn’t kill them, there are a lot of good and bad vehicles for certain battle ratings not everything is going to be equal lol.