Increase BR SU 30MK2 from 13.3 to 13.7

it’s impossible to play the same f-18c on 12.7, as it constantly plays at the bottom of the list against the f-14 iraf and the su 30 mk2, when the su 30’s missiles have a 50g overload and the f-14 throws its missiles when the game just started. Why is the same su 27cm on 13.7, while the su 30mk2 is on

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Yeah, they do need to go up, 13.7 would be perfectly fine, I think they would struggle at 14.0+ with the lack of DL channels and no NCTR and poor RWR and TWR but 13.3 is defiantly too low. (personally I think they should be 14.0 with Max BR at 15.0)

define poor RWR lol.

RWR on premium Su-30s is perfectly servicable.

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Sorry, to clarify it’s fine at its current BR, I meant It would be poor dealing with the top tier planes like the Raf and Su-30SM2 due to it’s limited top/bottom coverage losing track of the missile when you are in a hard bank trying to get into a notch. I’m not claiming that alone is a major problem but when combined with the other factors I mentioned it would add up to make fighting large numbers of the current 14.7s unpleasant if it was moved to 14.0 or above.
The lower TWR and the lack of NCTR are the main issues IMO, the limit of 2 DL channels is a minor annoyance but it’s not too hard to just stager you shots to let the missiles go to onboard guidance before shooting the 2nd pair

still not as op as the 9.7 su25k was

only way u can play f18 in those games is to go low bomb base then destroy some planes if you can.

Then what br for SU-27SM or J-11B?? I don’t think u thought this through

Is it spo-15 or l-150

L-150-14, same as the russian premium Su-30, and as far as I can tell, no practical difference to the L-150 of Su-27SM.

L-150 is good, if it was spo-15 it would be bad

ye. theres single obivous disadvantage, that being limited coverage, but the threat database covers pretty much all threats in ARB MKK could see at 13.7 with the sole exceptions of F-15C GE and Super Hornet for whatever reason (but it can pick up AESAphoons)

We are talking about the premium Su-30s are we not? But SU-27 is basically the same thing just with better TWR, it can be the same BR or a step higher.

Yeah? The SU-27SM and J-11B are just strictly better jets than the prem su30s, so what BR for those?

then one step higher than the Premiums obviously

0.7 br below top tier? For Su27SM and J11B?

why not? that where they where before the last BR increase. if thats an issue put max BR to 15.3. I’ve been strictly speaking of 2 specific planes and where I think they fit. Premium SU-30s should be 13.7 max unless the BR increase to 15.0 then relative to the top BR planes they could be 14.0.

They aren’t that good.

Yeah, and you don’t see the problem with putting them back at a higher BR relative to where they were at before? Because nothing else is going up. Their equivalents are F-16C, F-15J/C, etc not Mirage 5F or F-15E

Yeah but you have to consider all factors such as what I’m bringing up. They can’t share BR with better flankers and the better flankers can’t be ruined by uptiering them pointlessly so you need to do general decompression. I mean I’d rather they get ruined and put at 13.7 if gaijin doesn’t decompress but you’re definitely going to just make them questionable premiums if you place them same br as su27sm or j11b

What ever dude, leave them where they are then that works for me too.

Don’t think you read what I typed

To be fair you added half a novel AFTER I read it. and yes compression is the issue, again I simply said 13.7 would be fine for the MKK at least with the current BRs

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