well let’s hope decompression comes soon
Although i seem to remember Gaijin stating that they “believed” ARMs could not target small radars such as those found on All in one vehicles
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They also “believed” that western MANPADS couldn’t be much better than Iglas, so I am inclined to see that statement more as a cop-out to not have to properly model ARMs.
Either way, I don’t think we’ll see ARMs before Gaijins announced ESM/ECM additions.
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SPYDER is still underperforming.
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so is cs/sa5. But what’s new for chinese vehicles lol
Gaijin gonna need to decompressed everything to make things work better.
I have played both and at least the CS/SA5 is still somewhat fun to play. The Spyder really makes you want to pull your hairs out.
I agree, these SPAAs have no place at 12.0 where they can demolish 11.0 and 11.3 planes and helis.
They were added to counter the FnF high tier CAS planes at sit in 12.7 and 13.0, therefor they should match the BR of this planes.
IRIS T is far better than all others, so it should go to 13.0, CLAWS should go 12.7 to match the F15E.
Spyder, Pantsir and CS/SA5 should go to 12.3
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No leave them where they are. At times they’re the only counter to the Ka-50s/52s that plague top tier. Pantsir exists at this BR, so other nations should have their equivalent. Its about time CAS suffers.
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AA cant demolish planes in a uptier! Only CAS gets to demolish tanks! /s
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Better idea:
Move the new SPAA up in next BR change, along with the Ka-50, Ka-52, and Mi-28.
11.0 CAS becomes usable again, and we’re (mostly) freed from Russian choppers.
Stop it, I can’t breath… PML…
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the youtube ads fail to tell you that youll get nuked by aircraft against which you cant do anything, and that you have to sit in an SPAA on horribly designed maps to defend yourself and your entire team
Spawn a tank bro
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I don’t see the issue with this, and the wallowing about the fact of having to do something to keep you and your team safe, is part of the game.
A game that you all want to play, but only when it’s actually in your favour by the sounds, and that’s not how games go.
Don’t play tag to tag, then quit the game as winner because you just tagged someone and left.
10.0 SPAA has difficulties against some of the 11.0 CAS, which in turn has difficulties against some of the 12.0 SPAA, some of which in turn have serious problems against 13.0 CAS.
It’s just a never ending cycle until we get decompression.
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we figured you dont see the issue with this. might have something to do with the fact that you never played top tier, but what do i know
wrong, we want to play a game thats fair and your death is caused by being outskilled, which is what war thunder isnt
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‘we’…
Alright, so first off the bat, you’re ripping into something that has just been brought in, and hasn’t likely been tweaked.
Many people likely don’t know how to use it, or even be mindful of the vehicle as a whole.
‘fair’ is a coin word at a point because it gets thrown about so much. You’re also writing off the opponents skill as nothing out of bitterness.
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most sensible players is who “we” refers to
am i missing what youre talking about?
getting multiple kills on enemies who cant defend themselves doesnt take skill. i want a gamemode where my death is caused by my stupidity, not by external factors like teammates who dont spawn SPAA (as they shouldnt btw)
i simply want to play tank pvp and i could never care less about getting wiped out by aircraft. ive explained it many times, you understood it zero times, but ill say it again that tank vs CAS is shit gameplay and trying to justify this dynamic is cope
You’re posting as yourself so yea…
Ahhh, yea, not really for this topic… Tired of this being ‘everywhere’ and used as ammunition when you get pressed.
What you could look at these SPAA as, is a broadening of the tech needed to make more systems work. Just think of what could come along next. Where you’ll be safe as houses.