Incerase BR of new SPAA's from the Leviathan update

Read what I said above.
TO might very well help GRB get some much needed changes.

Funny how pantsir complainers suddenly disapered after the update and there is people defending vehicles that are way better and sit barely above in BR.

Who would have though that adding insane AA systems without decompessing would cause a lot of problems, huh? Always the same powercreep and FOMO with every patch…

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No, it doesn’t solve the issues with CAS and SPAA, but it does reduce the amount of people complaining about CAS.

New SPAA was a popular suggestion (apart from the separate game modes suggestion) because most people were getting fed up of getting nuked by CAS, but a mode without CAS solves the “CAS is annoying” argument.

Honestly I’ve not seen much of Gaijin’s recent announcements, but at the same time it would be a good opportunity to add HARMs as a new counter to the new SPAAs (depending on if the new SPAAs are overperforming)… I guess time will tell…

Fully agree though, pretty much the whole game needs decompressing lol.

Fair

It was mentioned in the initial announcement of Gaijin that they would start working on multi-vehicle AA systems that they would also work on ESM (Electronic Support Measures) for planes. ARMs were said to be considered not a priority or necessity.

For the time being (H)ARMs would honestly be overkill and shift the balance back to favor CAS over Anti Air and I am lead to believe that Gaijin has a similar opinion about that.

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Fully agree, especially when HARMs are pretty difficult to intercept (at least from my limited knowledge mainly from the AGM 88).

It’s clear that they don’t have any true interest in fully fixing that anyway. If they had they wouldn’t have made the half of the new AAs like the Tan Sam, CS/SA5. EldE 98 and Spyder so mediocre or even Garbage.

Then again, a TO mode would have to come with a massive BR change to be even somewhat balanced too.

When is this thread getting locked just like the scout drone one got locked 😂

Like what ?

Stats like K:D/winrates would massively shift for a lot of vehicles.

Examples

I think it would would lower a lot of USA vehicles WR% due to how much usa tech tree depends on cas.

honestly in a TO mode it sounds like the already problematic trio of Russia, Germany and Sweden would be even worse because now they have no CAS to worry about at all which was the only thing keep some nations afloat, I sure as hell dont wanna play constant matches where every enemy is a T-80BVM or 2A7V in a challenger 2

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I mean Russian top tier will take a serious hit in TO mode, as they use CAS quite a bit to win games.

They have 1 good tank (although not as dominant as it used to be) in the BVM, which even this is still pretty easy to deal with. The T-80Us are all decent while stuff like the 90M and B3 are mid at best or mediocre at worst.

Top tier Russian winrate. They bank a lot on the Kh38s. So in a TO gamemode I can easily see their winrates tank hard.

US tech tree doesn’t depend on CAS.

Tanks B.R. is not as related as many think to W/R. Name a tank please that would need a lower B.R. brcause of lack of CAS

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USA do depend on cas. Their WR will tank the hardest after introducing TO.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

challengers lol the only good thing about the British top tier line up is the EFT and even then its not great CAS

USA tanks don’t depend on CAS.

Please name on tank that does.

I have played many USA tanks and they do good on their own.

Again, they don’t depend on CAS

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Every tank can do good on its own.

More like, i should’ve said:

USA players depend on CAS to do good.

Not my fault, not the fault of tanks.

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pantsir has been suffering to a bug for a long time that makes it worse than the 2S6