Incerase BR of new SPAA's from the Leviathan update

I’m simply showing that we could easily “come up with a way to use air defense in ARB” as you claimed no one has.

And you wouldn’t have to sit AFK when a good missile system could easily cover significant amounts of the map.

Or let the ground missile players pick where they place say 2 or 4 fixed launchers on a map before the start of the game.

Lot of ground dudes would play just to spoil air in return.

Would need to have some dedicated SEAD tools, but easily doable at higher levels. It’s only really hard at the lower levels.

Tanks suffered too long from CAS but now when AA can effectively defend ground units its “suffering for 11.0-11.3 air” ? Too bad u didn’t say anything before when it was only tanks suffering from CAS overload. Btw, it’s called GROUND BATTLES so spawn GROUND UNIT lmao

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This is not a solution. Everyone will just fly to another part of the map and spaa will always be afk.

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GRB maps are made primarily for tanks and are still criminally small, so doing the same thing for ARB wouldn’t be anything special.

You could place bases in a way so AAs can cover the whole map.

The maps aren’t big enough, and just like GRB if you force the enemy to hide in one place away from the objectives, you win.

It’s a great solution.

Amazing solution, reduce the map sizes of a mode that needs bigger maps for the vehicles it features right now

That would be nothing unprecedented.
It’s time for ARB to embrace the combined aspect WT is so popular for.

Current ARB maps are fine, it’s just the lack of any meaningful objective forces people to flock to the middle, which would happen even if the maps were 300x300km.

I never said to reduce the map size…. I said that the current maps aren’t big enough to avoid high end missile systems….

AIR RB ALREADY FEATURES AN COMBINED ARMS ASPECT
How is that so hard to grasp?

Just because you don’t get to play the ground units and the ships doesn’t mean they aren’t there. There are more objectives to the mode than just “kill all enemy planes”, Gaijin ruining those objectives doesn’t mean that they are gone.

I’m just gonna stop right here, we’ve completely derailed the topic yet again and this discussion is going nowhere.

They are small because most people hate big maps. They want quick matches with a lot of action.

If you think about it a little bit, exactly 2 situations will come out of it:

  1. spaa cover the entire map and then the match lasts forever, because there 0 reasons for anyone to play risky against spaa and it’s better to throw bombs at them from 30km, kill them all and than play usual arb match. It’s boring for airplanes. It’s even more boring for the spaa. And the worst part is that it takes a very long time when people need fast matches.

  2. spaa do not cover the entire map and planes just fly around them.

It’s not really combined if players can only utilize one vehicle type. Let’s follow your logic here, we could just remove player controlled aircraft from GRB and place harmless AIs in their place, that just circle around waiting to get shot down by AAs.

What an easy way to make GRB a combined aspect mode that isn’t straight up cancer.

It very much does mean that as ARB is just a glorified TDM at this point.

Either of those is easily preventable with implementation.

1, you limit where missile systems can be placed on the half of the map owned by either team going to be in the vicinity of airfields and bases or the low altitude approach’s to said places.

Could air defenses be specifically hunted and destroyed allowing for a “normal” ARB that highly discourages strike/bombers ? Sure. But gives players who want play those aircraft specific goals/targets and gives the fighters something to try and prevent.

  1. So it’s no different than ARB now, don’t understand the complaint.

But thanks for letting me completely destroy your claim it couldn’t be simply and easily integrated. I do appreciate your cooperation.

Source ?

Funny to see you assume planes will be able to outrange AAs.

AAs could also be a second spawn or something, so they’d already have aircraft in their range that are ready to die.

Isn’t this a solution to having tanks in air rb? Like if they effect tickets, then they are gonna be a target in air battles no matter what if people want to win

Be careful, figher jockies might appear and come after you because you thought of implementing ticket drain for targets on the ground.

You aren’t allowed to mess with their TDM.

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Bro, FlakRakRad and ADATS are well enough to counter 11.3 CAS and helicoipters. IRIS-T is too OP for engagind 11.3 and perfectly balanced to engage top tier CAS.

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I sense more bomber gunner nerfs incoming already

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Along with another dmg model nerf

Oh come now, we all know that bombers being made out of balsa wood that has been soaked in kerosine for a month are perfectly balanced as they are right now

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Petulant children ruining a mode because they can’t function in any other way that isn’t:
Me see plane, me shoot plane.

ARB and especially top tier is now so braindead to play that I’m sure even literal chimps can be taught to play it with almost perfect efficiency.

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