As other guy already said, reload speed is different than just altering engine power or armor.
I am pretty sure a lot of the howitzers with auto-loaders have slower reloads than they should have and the PzH 2000 has some shells in the auto-loader that aren’t considered as part of the ready rack.
Edith: I’ll have to check this later, maybe I am misremembering the reload times for the auto-loader howitzers.
Same thing happened with the Maverick hype and the release of the F-14 in the game.
lol the sam’s are not even that good and the tan sam is currently unplayable i have not died once to them and kill them with ease at all teirs ngl
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That’s how it should be. You’re right.
There are some nuances, of course, but that’s all, because again the arguments “b b but kh38…” etc. will flood in.
Equal opportunities = Equal price.
Want to kill everything with one click, pay the same as a plane with a kh38.
Also true. I feel like the US modern vehicles hype is what trigger this.
The way he worded it, it seems like the auto-loader has multiple speed settings. If that is the case, the reply makes sense.
I dont know enough about the vehicle to say much else.
If TO does happen, with br adjustment I think only Leopard 2A7 and 122P will stay at 12.0 fighting each others lol and the rest of the vehicles like BVM and Abrams will either go down to 11.7, the Fuji might maintain it’s br placement and Chinese ZTZ and that lousy MBT-3000 might go down to 11.3 or 11.0 lol
With br adjustment it can actually be more balanced than having to deal with air targets.
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except youre comparing a SP price of what is essentialy support vehicle to what could be called a “killstreak”.
Either players spawn AA right off the bat and dont contribute to the ground fight MAYBE beyond scouting for some time, or switch to AA mid-game.
but switching to AA midgame isnt free. Players need to lose actual vehicle theyre currently in, either by getting killed of Jing out on purpose, losing not only the vehicle but map control and positioning as well, and only then can players spawn AA to counter the plane.
either way player loses something to be able to counter this killstreak.
That’s already how all of top tier works. Most modern Russian MBTs don’t even have real ERA or composite armor. Not to mention missiles like R-24 or R-73 which are almost entirely fictional.
Minority calling themselves the majority 🤣
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A stick with two ends
One player loses a tank to make a killstreak, the other loses a tank to prevent him from doing so. Only one pays 1000, the other 80.
“b-b-b-ut adats can’t counter kh38!!!”
I’m not saying that all spaa should cost as much as a plane.
Equal opportunities, equal price. Or at least 50% difference.
Why does an av8b with 4x agms cost 900+, and an s1 that shoots down those agmas and the av8b itself costs 100? Fair? I don’t think so…
You want to click the mouse and shoot down planes that landed at the airport? Be nice to pay for it.
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again, its a support vehicle. it fills a specific niche.
there will never be team full of AA. AAs job is not to just protect itself but the teammates too, that cant do anything against plane without spawning AA themselves.
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CAS has a much bigger impact on the outcome of a battle than a SPAA/SAM, not to forget that in many cases CAS can completely circumvent anti air.
A lot of the anti air vehicles in the game cannot destroy tanks. Anti Air needs to be as cheap to spawn as possible and CAS has to be as expensive to spawn as possible.
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Where did you get the idea that a AA is a support vehicle? Where do you get that from? When you have the ability to shoot down not only missiles or bombs, but also planes, and some even tanks, it is not a support vehicle. According to your logic, a plane is also a support vehicle, because it cannot come to occupy a base and win a game with team full of planes .
Once again. Equal opportunities = equal price
Want to sit on a base with strela that is practically useless against tanks? 50 sp please.
Want to close the sky completely?
Please be kind enough to open your sp wallet wider.
Ok
not every AA can detect them let alone shoot them down.
one thing i would think anti-air should be clearly able to engage ;)
ineed. SOME. few outliers can engage them effectively, while rest cant threaten them unless under extremely specific circumstances or not at all.
to a degree, after all, its called close air support.
but.
planes are more capable than AAs in the first place.
team with 15 AAs and 1 tank will most likely lose the game against team with 16 tanks.
team with 15 CAS planes and 1 tank will most likely win a game against team with 16 tanks.
but AAs do not have equal opportunities when compared to planes. they will never have.
There are two viable counters to AA - spawning a plane, or spawning a AA. Tanks cant effectively engage planes.
AAs can be countered by any ground unit, and plane too.
None of the new AA systems bar the chinese one can engage tanks at all. And even with that one i wouldnt bet on it.
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SPAAs and SAMs are support vehicles, especially those that cannot destroy tanks at all. The ability to destroy vehicles doesn’t decide the role of a vehicle, the intended purpose does.
Anti air vehicles support their teams by dealing with airborne threats and when they are not occupied with that they can help with repairs and do scouting.
CAS literally is Close Air Support, they support their team by attacking tanks from the sky.
A lot of the light vehicles in the game and all of the howitzers are support vehicles as well.
Designated ATGM carriers, the AVREs, the M728 CEV, and a lot of the designated tank destroyers are support vehicles. Everything that isn’t suited for frontline combat is a support vehicle, be it fire support, recon, spotting, anti air, sniping, whatever.
I didn’t even read what you wrote because I understood from your previous post that you should be ignored. Thanks for wasting your time, troll.
Ok bro
Ok, how many tanks the premium AMX A1A will be able to bomb when there is an IRIS T on the enemy team.
How many tanks will an American helicopter kill when the enemy has s1, flarakrad, ito90?
Is the only argument kh38? Can the 3 planes that have them be read like the majority?
No one answers anyway:
SPAA should be weaker if it’s going to cost less.