It is genuinely beyond me why people keep comparing Spyder to SLM.
In it’s current bugged state it’s closer in capability to a Strela than to SLM.
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Nah, I fire it from 16km and pull back as hard as I can and I doubt you will stop all 6 of them.
It was always expected that they would scream bloody murder, honestly. It was one of the main reasons I stopped playing top tier entirely - Gaijin adding a fantasy missile for one nation that not only breaks their own rules but broke any semblance of the balance of top tier completely.
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I dont even know if such missile existed with SUCH range, will you even be able to see a heat signature that the missile seeker would be able to pick up and lock onto? I mean theres a reason that such missile with that seeker doesnt exist and RU only uses the laser variant… Also why would you need such a huge missile to destroy a tank? Thats a bridge destroying warhead, waaaaaaaay too much of an overkill for a tank
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Yeah, it was (and still is) utterly disgusting tbh.
What makes it worse is gaijin’s refusal to address the issue, that they just… made it up. Add onto that their seeming inability to address ongoing balance crises and it’s just a very unfortunate situation all round.
For me, before this, I had at least a little bit of respect for their ‘standards’ etc but now? Now they’re just hypocrites.
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The issue is that they end up ruining 11.0/11.3 CAS and helis, so some of the new SPAA can go to 12.7. I guarantee you people would be agreeing if this topic was about the A-10C being bad against top tier SPAA.
I also want cas haters to make half decent arguments instead of just saying “just spawn a tank bro” or “skill issue”
It’s honestly better than the alternative, which is suppressing ground vehicles in their own gamemode.
These planes are frankly not great at the new SPAAs, and that’s an entirely fair assessment.
But I do not agree with just moving them up simply because the entire 11.0-12.0 bracket suffers from CAS abuse. They should also enjoy their protection.
What we could do to make it fair would to have decompression across the board, not just the SPAAs which are finally giving respite to an absurd problem.
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We have and it literally comes down to skill issue but the ignorance of CAS spammers not willing or being able to realise that is the issue. A10C did and still does have that issue but after years of complaining people either gave up on it or started using something viable actually. RU dominated SPAA for a long time and there was complaining that other nations need the same and now we finally have it and THE ONLY ONES CRYING ARE RU players
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Congrats, you’re actually a first player that isn’t jsut a CAS hater but a palyer that seeks solutions in this thread. This whole forum isn’t even worth it. It’s just a shit ton of people that will enter suggestion just to mock it. My suggestion is full of CAS haters, while probably the suggestion to nerf Kh-38 is full of CAS lovers spamming “just spawn a plane”.
That’s the thing, my friend; They’ve always been hypocrites. There was just a time where they were better at hiding it from the playerbase at large.
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Yep. There was a whole thread spanning some 10,000 replies on the forum and the most " evidence " was a mock-up at a convention and a brochure just throwing out rough specs. Neither of those are substantial enough evidence to warrant game implementation yet Gaijin did it anyways because again - It’s something for their chosen nation.
It’s all so galling and tiresome.
Moreover, it’s ground realistic battles. It’s a mode for ground vehicles.
Personally, I do not believe CAS should be treated equally to them.
They ought to receive priority and protection from getting punished and pushed off from their own gamemode, and that is perfectly fine.
CAS is not the main gameplay. It wasn’t designed to be, nor should it.
They do exist and should be taken into account when we’re talking regarding balancing or gameplay mechanics, but for me, the actual ground vehicles will always trump them in terms of who should be ‘handheld’, for the lack of better term.
I definitely hate CAS, but I can also recognize where SPAA dominates (such as the 8.0-9.3 range). Some of the new SPAA (mainly the German one) are too good for their BR, so they should go up. It’s only made worse with how compressed high tier planes in GRB are. You go from an F-5E to the EFT in 2 full BRs.
The Kh-38 should also be nerfed, and removing its IOG could help with that. I also doubt that Russia would have a fake missile available for purchase.
I’ve also heard that the new SPAA killed any chance of helis being good.
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Nice thing they added for the Germans. To shoot down a plane, you just need to click the mouse button. I feel sorry for those who recently bought a su39 or f18 :D Even pants1r is crying in a corner somewhere :D
I’m howling.
This thread is gold.
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Exactly…btw I dont understand where the need for 38MT originates from…isnt Mavericks performance pretty much on par with KH29MT? like 8km reliable range etc…what was wrong with having only that…
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In game? Not even close.
The kh-38 is mach 2+ with a fantastic seeker and a huge warhead. The maverick is… not.
The things own marketing brocure shows it could track buildings. Ships at best, most certainly not the abomination that gaijin implemented.
The thing is, we can’t even bug report it as the brochure isn’t enough of a source. So, the Russians get a fantasy weapon which performs so far beyond what it theoretically shoud it would make pravda blush, and we can’t get it changed or removed as gaijin are hiding behind their “rules” which they voilated in the first place by implementing it.
It’s all very kafkaesque.
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No no, I meant if we didnt have 38MT broken ass missile…wouldnt 29MT be comparable to what the rest has?
Yeah and even in the brochure it says its not meant for vehicles which is obvious…why would anyone use a nuke to kill a tank ffs makes no sense.
Wait if we caant bug report it, what is their justification of adding in in the first place?
38MT is not broken, it’s just how it is IRL. Would be fair if they added equivalent to other tech trees.
The irony of this post when the most common deflection of criticism of how unbalanced CAS is tends to be “just spawn a plane bro” and “skill issue” and CAS players not liking this being reflected back at them when the tables are turned makes me all warm and fuzzy.
CAS is long overdue a reckoning.
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