If you could, how would you re-balance CAS in Ground Battles?

I assume you mean AGM-65A/Bs fired from the A-10s?

If that is the case, then they have a FnF range well within the range of the Stormer. I’ve killed plenty. Same for the Su-25. They are the smallest threat at that BR. The issue is aircraft like the A-6 which can dropped laser guided bombs from high alt. They are probelmatic without CAP. But they arent FnF.

Crazy idea: what if the players couldn’t switch between driving a tank and flying a plane?
What if they had to choose whether to play as a pilot OR a tanker before joining the match?

Let’s say only 25% of total players in a Ground RB match could be pilots? So, for air players it would be a bit like Air RB but on a smaller map and with player controlled ground vehicles?

This would also solve people rushing the cap with a LT at the start of the game and j-out just to spawn a plane.

People who want to play tanks, will play tanks, those who want to either bomb tanks or contest the air space from enemy fighters, will enter the battle with planes only in their lineup.

What do you think?

make aa more rewarding to play and inrease the difference between spawning a fighter without bombs (for CAP) and with bombs etc

yeah you got me there. mavericks themselves arnt the problem nor is the hunter its the br at which they are at. 9.7 shouldnt see mavericks. let alone 8.7 in a downtier.
a-6 is a problem in its own. horribly undertiered for its capabilities and almost if not impossible to kill in a downtier if you dont spawn a plane (which kinda defeats to purpose of this post lmao)

Scroll up for my full response to this “problem” (first comment) but they just need to rework how SP costs are calculated in my opinion.

In-part why the A-6 is so good is because CAP is WAY too expensive to spawn in and the A-6 can take a large number of guided bombs which cost exactly the same as taking any amount of unguided bombs.

If SP costs for GBUs were higher than unguided bombs and the SP cost increased with the number of weapons taken. Then CAS becomes far more balanced in my opinion. Add on the ability to second-spawn in a CAP for say 200 SP. And every nation suddenly gets a viable anti-air solution.

After that, they just need to add more and better SPAA and tweak how they balance them (the issue is many SPAA have BRs based upon their Anti-tank performance and not anti-air performance)

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agreed AA brs need reworked but the solution to plane spam being more planes is counterintuitive. seeing how in lower brs lets say 7.7 and below many of the planes are still very effective gun-cas even if they are pure fighters. in this case more planes would only cause more issues regardless of them having bomb or rockets or not. top tier this obviously isnt as big of an issue because getting killed by guns at that tier is just a skill issue. that being said more planes is never a solution in a “ground battles” mode. the mode is combined arms but it shouldnt turn into air RB with tank players in it in as little as 3 minutes. at this point in time air has way too much of an impact of ground battles at nearly all tiers. many complain that the lower the br the worse the cas gets but at least in tiers where there isnt tv or laser guided missiles the enemy has to at least look in your general direction and be close enough to get hit. 12.7 is the extreme of this as you can easily sling bombs well past 20km and there nothing the AA can do other than spawn a plane or j out. both of which dont solve anything. even if they were in range its much easier to dodge a missile from an AA than it is to dodge a agm that glues itself to the center the tank.

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Going to unlock the M247 , how good is it as a SPAA with the HE-VT? Sucks that I can’t use that round on the test drive yet…

Trying to unlock the USA SPAA line all the way to maybe the LAV-AD

Probably the best gun SPAA out there

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Oh yea, M247 is definitely a no brainer SPAA once the HE-VT rounds are unlocked. Kept the skies clear from CAS each time I was on it. Can’t believe I haven’t unlocked it sooner fr…and so little amount of people use it around 9.0 when I played Japan a lot at 9.0+ lol On the side note though, that Imp.Chaparral is much worse to use than the Type 93 SAM lol Rather stick with the M247 than to use the Imp.

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Only one CAS and not as many as you can spam throw spawn points.

Adding tons of tall objects wouldn’t do much aside from screw over the planes that fly like s— and aren’t much of a threat anyways. Tall objects that are difficult for aircraft to see also worsens the situation.

Forcing airfield spawn has always been a dumb “solution” to CAS, especially as it makes certain planes near unplayable (e.g F-84F, America’s only 8.3 option) whilst having little to no effect on others.

The SPAA proximity rewards thing would probably be abused if it gave any meaningful rewards.
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Aside from those I agree. SP costs are really inconsistent (cause clearly a massive slow bomber with 52 50kg bombs should be double a fully loaded P-47)

Adding more cover also gives non-SPAA and SPAA much better chances against CAS.

If anything, CAP should also have massive SP cost increase. Far too many games have been lost because toxic Germany/Russia/Britain mains get an assist+scout, J out, then play whole game as CAP getting a single kill.

The issue comes when someone knows how to use helis.

Then M247 doesn’t stand a chance

Well, lets hope I bump into one cuz I have yet to see them in my games.

the higher rank you unlock the higher chance you want to quit, i suggested you playing WW2 vehicles, i quit this game for months because it’s unplayable, when your opponents are Russian the only thing you can do is return to hangar. You can’t counter a rocket shot from 20km, using aircraft to counter it? you will be shot right after you spawn the plane, quit game or play russian is your choice

Ain’t no way you think im a newbie and telling me to stay away from top tier bro…the audacity to tell me to quit lmao, I kill CAS in every tier. SAM currently will not reach 20km range, but I will use a fighter to stop them…

i ain’t say you are a newbie but i just want to let you know nothing you can do, 1 russian aircraft can kill at least 4 tanks at the same time, russian SPAA pantsir can track 4 targets at the same time at the range 36km

Im fully aware of that, doesn’t mean ima quit…

WW2 BR has out of control, Gaijin added so many Spaa of Cold War. they add zsu-23-4 at 7.3, USSR now already has the best SPAA in WWII BR

Good.

Hope all nations will get something like that

Hopefully more will be added for the rest of the other nations.

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