They still outrange AAs, which is why I said what I said.
yeah theyre not really good for all that much, just singlehandedly winning games, eating missiles and defeating jets all while bullying innocent ground players. not much more to see though
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That’s good. CAS should outrange SPAA, especially helicopters which lack almost all the advantages that planes have.
Ground units must be able to protect themselves.
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Theres KA-50/52 every game in top tier
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An idea just came up. Thought I could share it as well.
Just like in BATTLEFIELD, there are area’s where players can hop on an utilize stationary AA. I saw this today in a recent match, thought maybe Gaijin can allow these to be used by players for a short period of time. Idk how well this can work. Just food for thought and thinking outside the box here. Maybe someone here can add more mechanics to this idea or leave it alone entirely.
Could have option at the bottom next to ammo selection where we can toggle to activate when next to it and let the player control it ooooooor Ai control it for a good 20 seconds or so.
Rank 5+ can outrange SPAA (which is good) but can’t target moving vehicles.
o my god so your take is basically there should always be a range were planes can trow missiles non stop and rearm without spaa having any chance at all, zero
helis have pars 3 so they just need to pop up fire missiles and dip
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Par 3 is good match for Pantsir and SLM. Toptier choppers just tend to be undertiered cuz money. One of the many reasons I avoid toptier.
kind of but there is one small difference do you know what happens if you fire a missile from the pantsir and hide behind a house(which is often suggested)?
Correction… Some helis have Par 3 or Spike. Not all. There really isnt much an Apache with Hellfire is doing at top tier.
Though if you move down the BR and look at anything basically pre-10.0 ish withwise of helis. They are pretty sad.
Yea in particular the squadron Apache is sad(pretty sure it still shares its br with the ka50)
Yeah. This also tends to be my issue with “CAS” as a catch-all term.
The reality is, only 10-20% of “CAS” at most BRs is good. Most of it is pretty average and actually probably balanced quite well and then a small chunk is woefully underpowered.
But you say “can X be buffed” the default is usually, no CAS must suffer.
You can also shoot down munitions. Even if Pantsir can’t kill the chopper, you can still make em unable to play the game.
I disagree most planes are pretty decent atleast
Even the worst cas plane like Zero and Spitfire have bomb carrying models
On the other hand the amount of ground vehicle that can deal with cas is much much lower
Basically only most low to medium tier us
Not all of them, most of them dont, and when they do its usually very small calibre bombs. Like 250lb maybe 500lb.
When compared to an actual strike aircraft, with 1-3 1000lb bombs. Its not really even a competition.
But personally. I wouldnt even describe a Spitfire or a Zero as a CAS aircraft. They arent. They are CAP.
Though I was more thinking something like Typhoon with Brimstone 1 vs Su30SM with KH-38MT
or Tiger with FnF AGMs vs Apache without even DIRCM. You ask for buffs for the Apache, and its “skill issue” or “CAS must suffer” but the reality is that there isnt really any point ever bringing one of those apache to a top tier match because you are just a free kill.
well iirc AASM IR shouldnt even be able to track moving targets like a Maverick D
Right?
One of the best AGMs in the game on a very good platform.
But now compare to something like the Tornado Gr4 which is basically doa if you try to spawn in it
It has FAF bombs and brimstones its not that bad. Could be worse.