Aside from the comment on Wikipedia and a single reference in the document from Forecast International there isn’t any evidence that the Roland M3S had anything to do with Thailand. Interestingly Janes Land-Based Air Defense 1992-1993 claims that Thailand had ordered Crotale NG in tracked and semi-mobile form, but there is no other reference to this online (in English at least), and in 1993 Thailand acquired the semi-mobile ADATS.
Also, on ADATS this little graphic is interesting, although there are still no images of the semi-mobile variant of ADATS (both the prototype and the Thai variant) mounted to a 7t truck.
Here is the draft for the Thai & Filipino Air Subtree, it will only show Tier-IV to Tier-VIII since that is the Tiers that need Thai & Filipino Aircraft the most in the Japanese TT, again like with my ground TT, this is a rough draft so things are still subject to change
1: Even though it does not show Tier I-III, the Earlier Thai Aircraft (Tier I & Early Tier II) will be in it, Tier I-III Japan is not lacking in aircraft but it will still add some variety to the TT. The Thai Helldiver and Firefly will be added in the Dive & Naval Bomber as well as the Filipino T-28D in the Heavy Fighter line since these three aircraft will greatly boost the ground attack potential of the Japanese TT
2: My draft lacks the OV-10, this is intentional since i decided that they will be better off either in the Heil TT or in a new COIN air TT, this especially applies to the Super Tucanoes that the Philippine airforce operates for very obvious reasons
Glad to see lesser known stuff like the T-610 on there. Maybe you already have some of this stuff planned for the COIN tree, but here are some others
Both have hellfires on light cargo aircraft and would be a really good fit in that tree.
Single engine prop trainer with rockets and bombs.
Domestic Thai that looks similar to an OV-10, but a reallly light loadout.
Single engine high wing that looks like a big Cesena with rocket pods and a door mounted M197
Also the PAF selected and almost adopted the F/A-18C/D, but couldnt allocate the budget.
Just to let everyone know that the COIN TT will only contain 2 Japanese aircraft (LR-1 & Toyo FD-25), primarily due to Japanese Aircraft doctrine focuses more on Anti Shipping, Anti Submarine and Patrol duties over COIN
Finally i may need to look further into the Fantrainer (used by Thailand), GAF Nomad (used by both) and PAC CT-4 (used by Thailand) since i know that for the first mentioned aircraft, armament loadouts were proposed for it, the second aircraft in question is allegedly it can carry some ordinances as well and the last mentioned can definitely carry secondary loadouts with a pair of rocketpods being one that i definitely know of
For the submarine and submersible side, since War Thunder might get the submarine/U-boat update in the future, Thailand also once had its own submarine fleet of 4 submarines in total: HTMS Matchanu (The first of its class), HTMS Wirun, HTMS Sinsamut, and HTMS Phlai-chumphon, all of which were build by the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and saw combats during the Franco-Thai war, and the Second War. However, due to the Japanese surrender and subsequent disarmament of Japan, all four of them were later decommissioned and sold to Siam Cement Company for scrap.
On the other note, as I saw that the conversation also began to include other South East Asian nations besides Thailand, I also came up with the draft design for the South East Asian update + Japanese Tech tree expansion, named update “Nanshin-ron” or Southern Expansion (南進論). The name Nanshin-ron was the name of the political and military doctrine regarding Japanese expansion southward to region of Southeast Asia aiming to expand its sphere of influence as well as secure the resources from the region.
Are you promoting Japanese imperialism? Southeast Asia is a group of independent countries, and there is no reason for them to join the Science and technology in Japan tree! I believe that those who were occupied by Japan in World War II and whose country was massacred will not agree to put their country in the Science and technology in Japan Tree!
No, I come from PRC. Japan has not yet acknowledged or apologized for more than 70 massacres such as the Nanjing Massacre and the Lushun Massacre. Moreover, North Korea and Thailand belonged to Japan’s vassal states during World War II (but Thailand did not participate in the war), so they were not massacred. However, other Southeast Asian countries invaded by Japan suffered varying degrees of slaughter, so they are not suitable for Japan’s technological tree. Moreover, Thailand has imported a large amount of equipment from China since the Cold War, so they are not suitable for Japan’s technology tree (if it were to be placed in Japan’s technology tree, Thailand would lose most of the ground vehicles from 8.3 to 11.3 because they come from China). But because the Korean Civil War was divided into North and South Korea, and North Korea was a Socialist state, it was not suitable for Japan’s science and technology tree. South Korea is a capitalist country and, like Japan, became a vassal state of the United States after World War II. Therefore, South Korea is most suitable for integration into Japan, while Southeast Asian countries are more likely to act as a separate technology tree or send vehicles to producing countries.
I was informed by a citizen of the PRC that Japan apologized in the mid 1970s.
But no one is suggesting that Chinese vehicles, or North Korean vehicles, go into the tech tree with Japan’s name on it.
People are suggesting nations that have good relations with Japan, such as the ones I listed prior.
While I support the addition of nations like Thailand and the Philippines into the Japanese techtree, I don’t think “Nanshin-ron” is a good idea. It just seems a bit tasteless regarding the circumstances.
It’s an interesting idea considering there is historical context to it, but that context makes up for 80% of the arguments against such subtrees. A better idea would be to name such an update after the new nation, giving them their individual spotlight. This would represent the update better and not rub salt in old wounds.