Idea and Discussion: Thailand As A Minor Nation

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Idk whats the point of RBS and Starstreaks, cause they seem like the same type 93 (in terms of gameplay). But Izusu and Bradley/Bofors looks interesting

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Mainly because they are built on what are essentially Japanese chassis. At the very least they provide Japan with SACLOS missiles than can engage helis past 2km. Many SEA country’s domestic Light tac vehicles are built on Toyota chassis with another example being the Weststar GK-M1 so they make easy additions where you can pick from the best examples.

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This would be a perfect 10.0 IMO.

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Problem with ADATS is that there’s very little info on the Thai variant. They owned a semi-mobile variant and they clearly moved it at some point, since there are images of it in a few different locations, but I don’t think we don’t know what vehicle it was moved on, or whether or not it was transported in a manner where the weapons system would still be usable, so it’d be hard to accurately implement (unless someone has this information)

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I would love to see Thailand as a Japanese sub tree. It would fix a lot of problems that Japan is currently facing.

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Interestingly, on the IFV side, Thailand also has indigenous IFVs that can be fitted in mid to high tiers as well.

Bonus: Thai V-150 (AKA Cadillac Gage Commando)
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I decided to make a draft of what a potential Thai & Filipino sub tree would look like in the Japanese TT, i also added some other vehicles Japan operated that are not in game as the making of this post into the draft as well

Japanese Ground TT
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Note: This is a draft so a lot of things are subject to change and i’ll add symbols to indicate which vehicle is Japanese, Filipino or Thai since there are Thai and Filipino vehicles in the SPG/TD & SPAA lines.

An Air and Heil/Heil & COIN TT will be coming soon

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Aside from the comment on Wikipedia and a single reference in the document from Forecast International there isn’t any evidence that the Roland M3S had anything to do with Thailand. Interestingly Janes Land-Based Air Defense 1992-1993 claims that Thailand had ordered Crotale NG in tracked and semi-mobile form, but there is no other reference to this online (in English at least), and in 1993 Thailand acquired the semi-mobile ADATS.

Also, on ADATS this little graphic is interesting, although there are still no images of the semi-mobile variant of ADATS (both the prototype and the Thai variant) mounted to a 7t truck.
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ADATS was use by royal thai air force in static shelter-based system version

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More R600 Platform. [Draft] From Thailand Defence and Security 2019

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I mainly added the Roland/Crotale in the draft partially because Thailand is interested in it and also as a gap filler, it will be replaced on a later date when a more sufficient replacement is found

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Here is the draft for the Thai & Filipino Air Subtree, it will only show Tier-IV to Tier-VIII since that is the Tiers that need Thai & Filipino Aircraft the most in the Japanese TT, again like with my ground TT, this is a rough draft so things are still subject to change

Japanese Air Rework
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Two notes

1: Even though it does not show Tier I-III, the Earlier Thai Aircraft (Tier I & Early Tier II) will be in it, Tier I-III Japan is not lacking in aircraft but it will still add some variety to the TT. The Thai Helldiver and Firefly will be added in the Dive & Naval Bomber as well as the Filipino T-28D in the Heavy Fighter line since these three aircraft will greatly boost the ground attack potential of the Japanese TT

2: My draft lacks the OV-10, this is intentional since i decided that they will be better off either in the Heil TT or in a new COIN air TT, this especially applies to the Super Tucanoes that the Philippine airforce operates for very obvious reasons

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There is a late service version of the F-2A as well;

Japan also used the F-35A and soon the F-35B. In future there are also the F-15JSI and F-3.

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Most if not all of those mentioned aircraft will be added when Tier IX is announced, for the time being they will be absent

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Glad to see lesser known stuff like the T-610 on there. Maybe you already have some of this stuff planned for the COIN tree, but here are some others
AC-235
AC-295
Both have hellfires on light cargo aircraft and would be a really good fit in that tree.
SF.260
Single engine prop trainer with rockets and bombs.
RTAF-5
Domestic Thai that looks similar to an OV-10, but a reallly light loadout.
AU-23A
Single engine high wing that looks like a big Cesena with rocket pods and a door mounted M197
Also the PAF selected and almost adopted the F/A-18C/D, but couldnt allocate the budget.

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A somewhat unrelated note, but I’d also personally wishlist the Ka-Ho for an event/premium; 57mm gun, 2 sponson flamethrowers.

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All of those will be added into the COIN TT

Just to let everyone know that the COIN TT will only contain 2 Japanese aircraft (LR-1 & Toyo FD-25), primarily due to Japanese Aircraft doctrine focuses more on Anti Shipping, Anti Submarine and Patrol duties over COIN

Finally i may need to look further into the Fantrainer (used by Thailand), GAF Nomad (used by both) and PAC CT-4 (used by Thailand) since i know that for the first mentioned aircraft, armament loadouts were proposed for it, the second aircraft in question is allegedly it can carry some ordinances as well and the last mentioned can definitely carry secondary loadouts with a pair of rocketpods being one that i definitely know of

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Honestly more reason as a potential sub tree for Japan.
There are 3 potential subtrees for Japan, and this is one of the options.

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Forgot to yeet the R2Y2, and forgot F-15s are definitely going after EJ Kai.

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This looks absolutely amazing!