I propose lowering the combat rating of the Abrams

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I mean… that document isn’t very specific and just says it can’t be penetrated at 1 km… doesn’t say anything about shorter ranges. 1 km might just be used as a benchmark for a standard range of engagement. Contrary to War Thunder, most engagements between tanks (which rarely happen to begin with) happen at or well beyond that range.

Also is this from an actual test of a real M829A2 shell being used against a T-90 with Relikt? Becuase if its not and just a calculation it just becomes a “he said she said”

I mean, even without a translator you can tell roughly what it’s talking about.

I’m 99% sure DM53 can UFP a T-80U, at least last time I checked.

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Read in your own mind it seems

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It’s a T-80BVM according to the diagram. (Which has an upper plate = 425ishmm, add in the 260mm relict in game, and presto, you have the number why it should stop DM53. It just barely is over the mark when it comes to stop point blank DM53 but in game it still has a low chance to pen.

But relict is very minorly under preforming from the last technical data I laid eyes on, it should be stopping 280mm kinetic, not 260mm.

Just as Kontact 5 should be 140mm not 120mm, but whether it’s gaijin balancing or what not I don’t know.

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crazy how you can’t understand it but others can

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Not everyone listens to your lies there pal.

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In the bottom right, where the “M829A2 cannot penetrate @ 1km” comes from, it says it’s a T-90 and you can tell by looking at it that it is one.

Although to be fair the rest of the document does seem to be detailing a T-80BVM ERA package. I think the bottom right, with the T-90, is there to show the efficacy.

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crazy how they are " my lies "

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The bottom right ones have the profile of a T-72B3 from the looks of it.

That’s what I thought the whole diagram was at first, then noticed the odd exhausted and era placement of the T80B, but looking more like the T72.

It honestly looks like a crappy mashup, so without real data, and good diagrams I’m not sure if I would ever consider it a reliable source.

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Don’t trust ERA statcards in game, they’re usually wrong. The K-1 on the side of the T-72B is listed as stopping 400mm of CE, but in reality is about half as effective when hitting it with HEATFS in game.

Secondary source at best, though to be honest I don’t disagree with the things I can read. Like I said the “M829A2 cannot penetrate @ 1 km” doesn’t imply that it can be penetrated under 1 km

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Oh I don’t trust the in game values… using a Turm III I’ve been able to kill T-90A’s hitting the worst part to hit on the era on the side and killing the T90a… so yeah… I don’t trust it in the slightest. All while using HEAT-FS