What are you on about, russian MBTs have some of the most susceptible (to fatal damage) LFPs on a top tier MBT, i understand that looking over your long nose of bias may be difficult but you cannot be serious
5 Likes
And yet they have one of the worst air trees at top tier, their tanks are mediocre and their helis are no longer dominant, the only place russia excels is in their long range AGMs and SAM vehicles
5 Likes
Uh… yeah? Assuming you meant the UFP. There is such a thing as asymmetrical balancing which is totally fine.
Because you haven’t made your point? Lol
5 Likes
And even then, 3BM60 cannot simply ‘lolpen’ a leopard or abrams UFP, the abrams will ricochet and the leopard will eat it, so once again Sartt is spewing purely biased dribble
3 Likes
OH look i proved you wrong, again. You people are ignorant you can’t even use the protection model correctly.
\
Good tank with lackluster shell should maybe go up .3 and have m833
All those are instant ricochets.
1 Like
you are literally looking at the abrams from below the tank where no gun from a T series will ever fire. you then have the ANGLE facing up at a angle where it is impossible. You people can’t even use the protection analysis.
they aren’t instant ricochets, even ricochets have the power to penetrate.
cropping these is always suspicious; give me the dart you used, whether or not vertical angle is considered in those images and then try and recreate those in a custom, then you have viable evidence to prove me wrong :)
2 Likes
They are instant ricochets at the spots you’ve shown. They also do zero damage there.
3 Likes
I’ve tried it with DM53 in a custom battle on flat ground and anything below the driver’s hatch line is a 100% ricochet that deals zero damage.
2 Likes
Whenever I fire upon the abrams and miss it’s turret ring or LFP (basically a rushed flickshot) it always tends to ping right off the hull, and if sartt here is oblivious enough to think that all tank engagements happen directly opposing each other and with set parameters then maybe he should hang up the boots and call it a day.
4 Likes
We all can see that the only thing USA mains are good at is they always amaze you with their incompetence and stupidity.
3 Likes
LOL, it’s 83°, 3° more AOA than in your picture. US mains will do anything to prove they’re right.
Anyway, this is how it really looks in a real battle. Tell me another lie.
1 Like
You know the angle of attack (AOA) is measured from the perpendicular axis of the armor. Every T-series tank is shorter than the Abrams, so on flat ground, an 80° shot is impossible.
You can’t even do maths.
3 Likes
So I was the one who original pointed out that the Tank used on the Pen image for the Abrams was the 292. I am back to kind of help put this to rest. I used Chat to bring me up all the info it could from Media to actual battle reports on the Abrams spanning the Gulf war to the Ukraine war. In the American battle field reports especially 73 easting showed that the Abrams Performed very well against Russian tank mainly the T-72 at the time, then in the Ukraine war aside from the one being destroyed due to anti-tank tech not by Russian tanks the Abrams has been destroyed, But against the T-80’s and T-90s it has performed well. Being hit and surviving with minimal damage but taking out the mentioned tank with one round. Now some have compered the Leopard 2 to the Abrams and I am here to debunk some of that to the only difference is the Leo has better fuel economy and maintaince is easier. Also the Abrams gun is slightly better. So all in all yes the Abrams in game needs fixed But the fix would actually propel it to higher Br’s cause it is actually a good tank by all available information even from Russian reports.
If anyone has an Issues with this I would like to know cause I am not trying to be bias cause I am doing quite the opposite I am saying the Abrams is fine where it is at and that yeah it could have some changes to make it more realistic but at the end of the day it’s a game not real life with lives on the line so be a little easier on Gaijin they are not making tanks for the real world but for a game and they have very limited info also they have done very well for a game to make it realistic.
the M256 is a licensed produced Rh-120 L44 which means that it would be roughly on par with the Leopard gun