I propose lowering the combat rating of the Abrams

Because I proved a point?

you have an opinion, there’s a difference.

Entirely based on video data, and irl accounts.

Irl accounts and video? Like the one I posted showing an experienced crew. Or the US government study document, that said the average load time was 5.3 seconds which you disregarded in another thread where an actual tanker proved you wrong?

Proof like that?

That’s what proof looks like. That’s what proving a point looks like. You’ve given an opinion, and boy howdy it’s a fine one at that, be proud of it, but it’s not proved by anything.

That’s why I won’t go down the rabbit hole with you any further(good on ya for getting me this far lol).

Consider this my last response regarding your opinion

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Lmao “that’s what evidence looks like”
Meanwhile you: ignore all the videos I’ve posted before, and clearly ignore very possible situations like tests being lied on.

But hey, the world is your chief, we’re all just living clearly.
Main character, oh main character, whatever shall we do??

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@RavenGuardMarine

Would you like more examples? Unless using your immense bias, (or lying to yourself), you can disprove these?

Nor did I cherry pick. Took the first results.
Being lenient, giving until the breech drops even, almost all are +7 sec load times, fastest was roughly 5.839 secs.

So in game, it’s actually biased. I didn’t even take the averages as I know it’s not going to be good.

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lmfao these people aren’t loading for combat,

Don’t forget that T-80B and T-80U didn’t have thermals irl

T-80b had an upgrade package, and the T80U does… where did you read it didn’t??

I’m glad you agree it’s a USA cope issue.

They are. And even @RavenGuardMarine liked it. You @sartt have too much propaganda in your life. But call up the prez for me, tell him I said hi

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T-80U thermal sight Agava-2.
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agava-2 sight

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US mains try not to cry - impossible

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propaganda? lmfao

Gaijin Double Standards
you mean that experimental thermal sight? that was only on a single tank? oh and BTW the T-80UK /T80UM was the one with the thermal sight, not the T-80U. If we follow this same logic those abrams with the D.U Hulled at the army school " should be baseline in the tech tree.

T-80 should not have thermals :: War Thunder General Discussions

If the T80B and T80U get thermals, why doesn’t the T80UM-2? : r/Warthunder

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If they going to do anything first, they need to correct Merkavas and leave the Abrams the way it is just to troll USA mains because they’ve been talking too much smack lol

I know f-all about specific traits of tanks but I mean if that’s actually true, it’s more than enough to give the hull upgrades. Still won’t make play Abrams again though lol

Considering 100% of what sartt says has no factual basis, I wouldn’t believe him.

Plus there’s an old forum on here disproving his opinion

you want to ask @Conraire about the over performing russian armor, or the BRL upgrades of the abrams?

all i want is to be able to sit on a hill at a angle and laugh as people fire into the LFP in vain.

That’s because the T-80UM was a test bed for drozd on the T-80U, it could easily fit a thermal but as it was a test vehicle they aren’t totally kitted out