I propose lowering the combat rating of the Abrams

“Slightly” better as in nearly 50% more shrapnel, with significantly better armor, and near identical mobility.

Bc Obj 292 can pen literally any spot prontally on the Abams but not the Leopard 2.

T-80BVMs armour is terrible, should be 7.7

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im gonna need to see some proof on that 50 percent more shrapnel.

So when it goes to the M1 these are minor differences?

The 2A4s frontal armour isn’t really going to save it from a lot of rounds, a pen is a pen after all. I’d also say that the M1 can be quite trolley when it is penned, I’ve seen many drive away after taking a hit.

The tank doesn’t need a buff, and while I do agree that giving it the M833 isn’t the end of the world, it honestly doesn’t need it. Just like how the 2A4 doesn’t need a slight reload buff(say .02) the M1 is extremely balanced.

If the M774 gets nerfed, then yes, give it a new round but until then…it’s fine.

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“M1 is extremely balanced” -Everyone who’s never player it

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For real man? It’s a perfect side grade to the 2A4. It needs a turret ring fix and it’s all gravy

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“M1 is extremely balanced” - Me with 280 battles in it

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XD your Abam’s KD the worst out of all your MBTs. Even your challenger is better.

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Don’t do that, don’t be that guy.

I knew this thread was going to be a flame war. Didnt disappoint. Ill continue to laugh at all you as i nuke entire ground matches with CAS. Filthy ground casuals (its a joke relax)

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Surely his K/D would be better than his other MBTs, especially ones like the Challenger if the Abrams was actually good.

Are your stats better than his? Are mine?(im a bad player, I’ll save you some time there)

Why is the Ariete at the same BR? It’s an objectively worst vehicle.

You are simply trying to get the M1 buffed when it doesn’t need it because you are a pure US main.

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2 words

minor nation

this has to be satire lmao

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Big words from a US main who’s highest BR and rank vehicle is an M1A1 AIM

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The M1 KVT is the vehicle I have 280 games in, yes I understand it doesn’t have stock grind, but the reason my M1 K/D is low is because I always took it as a second spawn which meant it took a lot longer to grind out M735, and it also fought better skilled and better positioned players later into the game.

My M1 KVT K/D is 2.5, fyi.

  1. my 11.3 T 80 U has a higher rank (and many more games played than Abams)
  2. Abams isn’t really an 11.7 vehicle. It bears 11.0 capabilities, but you think it’s 11.7 bc Gajin says so.

Good thermals (on your squadron one anyway), amazing round, amazing mobility, decent armour, what more could you want from an MBT besides OP status, you are simply inexperienced and are displaying conformation bias

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you have only furthered my point that your only experience at top tier are through squadron vehicles, AKA none

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Correction: Average round, decent mobility, and horrible armor and survivability. The thing the M1A1 has goin for it is Gen 2 thermals, which the TT variant doesn’t even get.

Correction: I’ve played both T-80 and Abrams, unlike you.

I know this is difficult for you to understand, but Rank 8 is higher than Rank 7

The M1A1 AIM/HC is irrelevant to the topic at hand, and 120mm Abrams perform quite differently from the 105mm Abrams.

His point still stands that you are inexperienced at top tier, and only are at it via squadron vehicles.

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