I... I don't understand

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TLDR:br confused, j-11a and a-5c should not increase BR
Seriously, how exactly does Gaijin balance these aircraft?

The J-11A has a worse radar than the Su-30MKK and Su-30MK2. It can only provide mid-course guidance updates for one R-77 at a time, while the Su-30s can support two.

And then there’s the RWR. The J-11A is still stuck with the same outdated SPO-15 as the original Su-27, while both premium Su-30s get a much better digital RWR, similar to the one on the Su-27SM.

Sure, the J-11A has better flight performance and MAWS, but does that really make up for its inferior radar and terrible situational awareness?

And now you’re telling me the J-11A deserves to go up to 13.7, the exact same BR as the Su-30MKK and MK2?

Based on what, exactly? A slightly lighter airframe?

Oh, and speaking of questionable BR changes, the A-5C has to be the funniest joke I’ve seen in this entire list.

A MiG-19-based attacker that’s barely supersonic at low altitude, with only TWO rear-aspect missiles, no IRCCM, and just 18 countermeasures, is somehow being moved up to 11.0?

Meanwhile, the J-7D is faster, has much better high-speed handling, can carry FOUR PL-7s (basically Chinese Magic 1s), and gets 72 countermeasures. Yet it somehow stays at 10.7?

So let me get this straight: the J-11A deserves the same BR as the better-equipped Su-30s, but the A-5C deserves a HIGHER BR than the J-7D?

What exactly is Gaijin using to balance these aircraft? Because it certainly doesn’t look like their actual combat capabilities.
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By the way, these are su-27,su30 mk2v and su27sm rwr

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Yes, the J-11A deserves to go to 13.7 in the tiny decompression we will get.

But the premium Su-30 variants deserve to go to 14.0.

The A5C change must be a joke indeed. If anything, it should go to 10.3.

Overall the intention of the devs is to just give us as very little decompression as possible, while giving premium jets an even more favourable placement (su-30’s, J7D etc…)

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I see your point, but if the premium Su-30s are moved to 14.0, where would that leave the J-11B? 14.3? And should the F-15E then be moved to 14.7?

If that’s the case, would top-tier aircraft like the AESA-equipped Eurofighters, Su-30SM2, and J-16 end up at just 15.3?

My concern is that simply moving aircraft up by 0.3 or 0.7 without raising the top BR enough won’t really solve the compression problem. It would just shift the problem to higher BRs.

I agree that we need decompression, but I think the entire top-tier BR range needs more room, rather than just moving a few aircraft up.

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People just see the +.3 BR bump to the premium Su-30s and are happy and completely turn their brain off that a bunch of its peers in terms of performance also got a +.3 BR increase. Making the bump largely ineffective.

This is literally the same thing they did with the 2S38 for multiple BR adjustments, only moving it when everything else also went up

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the problem air rb has had for the last year is that there have been 2 extremely compressed areas, 12.0-12.7 and 13.7-14.7

this decompression is focused on fixing the (in my opinion worser off of the two) the 12.0-12.7 one

yeah but 12.3 is playable again and 12.7 will be better off

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Yes. At least 15.3 in the worst-case scenario. Gaijin wants to decompress even less than that

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Idea; stretch ratings all the way to 20.0 and then assess from there.

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20.0? But what about ground vehicles?

If top-tier aircraft like the AESA-equipped Eurofighters and J-16 were moved to 20.0, would future aircraft like the J-20, F-35, and Su-57 end up at 20.7 or even higher?

Meanwhile, would top-tier tanks still be sitting at 13.3, 13.7, or 14.0?

Wouldn’t that create a huge gap between air and ground BRs, especially in Ground RB? Or are you suggesting that ground vehicle BRs should be rescaled as well?