Idk how that would work based on the 9Ms seeker but ok. I guess it is what it is and the F5c engines are broken.
I had a British Phantom do that once to a 9L/i that I fired from 2 km away.
Probably LCM + throttle down + a whole heaping of luck.
Well TBF the 9ms are missing some stuff that could make them better.
The J-7D definitely should be higher.
The Kfir Gderot has comparable performance, inferior missile count and comparable missile performance but sits at 11.0 while the J-7D is below it.
I argue the PL-5B is literally the best rear aspect IR missile in the game, period. Magic 1, sidewinders from USAF and USN, K-13, R-60 and others are just outright worse in the majority of scenarios.
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Ah yes, the MiG 21 with only rear aspect missiles should be at the same BR where everyone gets radars and all aspects
Ok? As if there aren’t a dozen+ other jets in similar situations and with worse missiles/platforms? J-7D is too good for 10.7 it’s literally that simple
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The best rear aspect missiles, and most SARH’s below 11.7 are not very good. The J-7D also has a radar and decent flight performance.
If u change direction after you flare 1 flare is enough to dodge Aim-9M in nearly every jet in the game do you even know how a 9M seeker works and why they hardest to dodge side aspect??? Can an F-5C 1 flare a Matra 2??? No it cant because THAT missile dont shut off its seeker when it see’s a flare like 9M’s do … I kill lots of F-5C in my Mirage 5F it slays them and they cant ever catch me + im .7 BR lower with waaaay better missiles
The good thing of the F-5C is that is super easy to fly
5D chess proposal:
Just give J-7D fire bombs so less PL-5B users
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Except the missiles are way better than R60M.
This is honestly a joke or something right?
I love how my post was removed 🤣 and all it was was a replay and me saying that j7d was perfectly balanced (huge sarcasm was obvious)
I noticed that
would probably work honestly
Single flare to get rid of it. Sub 0.8 km then probably more, tho i had it flared off even at 0.5 km
The main issue is what it faces in downtiers. At 10.7 and above? yeah its solid but not busted. But in a downtier? Lots of jets can do literally nothing to it, some like the Harriers can flare off missiles but are screwed in an actual dogfight. The F-105 (along with many other non-nimble attackers, that may or may not have countermeasures) are just free food.
and the same can be said imo of pretty much every 10.7 in a full downtier.
Supersonics, with good missiles and CMs vs subsonics with weak missiles and no CMs is never going to be a fair fight.
What is more needed is a decompression of 8.0-10.0. Maybe even pushing up to 11.0/12.0 a bit too. I think what the J-7D faces at and immediately around 10.7 is fine, its just the extreme downtiers which might be an issue.
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I think I mostly agree, but the 7D has the great combination of 4 great IR missiles, with tons of speed that makes it really tough to deal with. At least something like a Crusader or Mirage is limited by its speed or quantity of missiles. But yes, in the end, decompression is the issue.