I am Complaining about the J-7D and disagree with its BR reduction

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That just means they weren’t paying attention. They’re impossible to kill if the F-5 is aware of their surroundings.

I own the ROC F-5A which is the same but with 9Ps, and I can confirm that it is incredibly good. Most of my kills in it aren’t even from missiles. It should go up, but it can’t because it is worse than the F-5E.

And back to the main topic, which is about the J-7D being undertiered which is factual. Pl-5Bs are fast, with good range, and the J-7 is a solid platform as well. It should be 11.0 in its current state.

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Idk how that would work based on the 9Ms seeker but ok. I guess it is what it is and the F5c engines are broken.

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I had a British Phantom do that once to a 9L/i that I fired from 2 km away.

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Probably LCM + throttle down + a whole heaping of luck.

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Well TBF the 9ms are missing some stuff that could make them better.

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The J-7D definitely should be higher.

The Kfir Gderot has comparable performance, inferior missile count and comparable missile performance but sits at 11.0 while the J-7D is below it.

I argue the PL-5B is literally the best rear aspect IR missile in the game, period. Magic 1, sidewinders from USAF and USN, K-13, R-60 and others are just outright worse in the majority of scenarios.

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Ah yes, the MiG 21 with only rear aspect missiles should be at the same BR where everyone gets radars and all aspects

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Ok? As if there aren’t a dozen+ other jets in similar situations and with worse missiles/platforms? J-7D is too good for 10.7 it’s literally that simple

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The best rear aspect missiles, and most SARH’s below 11.7 are not very good. The J-7D also has a radar and decent flight performance.

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If u change direction after you flare 1 flare is enough to dodge Aim-9M in nearly every jet in the game do you even know how a 9M seeker works and why they hardest to dodge side aspect??? Can an F-5C 1 flare a Matra 2??? No it cant because THAT missile dont shut off its seeker when it see’s a flare like 9M’s do … I kill lots of F-5C in my Mirage 5F it slays them and they cant ever catch me + im .7 BR lower with waaaay better missiles

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The good thing of the F-5C is that is super easy to fly

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5D chess proposal:

Just give J-7D fire bombs so less PL-5B users

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Except the missiles are way better than R60M.

This is honestly a joke or something right?

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I love how my post was removed 🤣 and all it was was a replay and me saying that j7d was perfectly balanced (huge sarcasm was obvious)

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I noticed that

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would probably work honestly

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Single flare to get rid of it. Sub 0.8 km then probably more, tho i had it flared off even at 0.5 km

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The main issue is what it faces in downtiers. At 10.7 and above? yeah its solid but not busted. But in a downtier? Lots of jets can do literally nothing to it, some like the Harriers can flare off missiles but are screwed in an actual dogfight. The F-105 (along with many other non-nimble attackers, that may or may not have countermeasures) are just free food.

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and the same can be said imo of pretty much every 10.7 in a full downtier.

Supersonics, with good missiles and CMs vs subsonics with weak missiles and no CMs is never going to be a fair fight.

What is more needed is a decompression of 8.0-10.0. Maybe even pushing up to 11.0/12.0 a bit too. I think what the J-7D faces at and immediately around 10.7 is fine, its just the extreme downtiers which might be an issue.

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