I am Complaining about the J-7D and disagree with its BR reduction

Could you please provide some documents proving its engines are burning to cold and its flight model is over preforming? IK gaijin makes up a lot of stuff but still.

Same BR as F-105D though. Same issues but even worse FP (it gets 4 9E tbf, but let’s be honest we would both take 2 magic 1 over those)

Id think it would be 10.3 then, especially since stuff like F-105D is at 10.0 without any flare or chaff aswell

At least F-105D can accelerate past Mach 1 without having to wait 4 minutes.

It’s a bomber too, they have naturally higher BRs because they’d be unkillable otherwise if balanced off AA capabilities.

Ir Signatures are based upon thrust.

F-5s have low thrust and therefore are ice cold. In contrast something like a SHar has a LOT of thrust and is extremely hot. Especially at lower air speeds

Grimtax compared the IR signatures of an F-5 on full reheat against that of the F-117 using the Su-27s IRST

F-5 was colder

Its FM was modeled using USSR docs or something and US docs for it arent accepted to nerf it or something. Its really wierd

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I don’t need to regarding its engine temp. It’s widely known they overperform for anybody who knows better and routinely faces it. They act like PROP engines in game. The F-5 RIVALS the F-117, a REAL stealth aircraft, at IR masking.

Idk. Starfighter can be dealt with with AIM-9D slingers like Ayit, and that’s faster than an F-105

If never seen anyone need more than one flare pop for a 9e especially if you turn off your engine for like .5 seconds. Maybe that is a SHar problem.

F5C has no radar at all.

Ok well I know I shouldn’t but I can’t really believe you until I see something, but i’ll do my own research and get back to you because I don’t want to be wrong.

Yes, it is a Shar Problem. But the reason why the SHar is so hot, is also the reason why the F-5 is so cold. (I’ve had an F-5E 1 flare defeat a rear-aspect Aim-9M before)

My bad then, confusing it with the F-5E

Oh yes let’s egregiously undertier a bomber because another egregiously undertiered jet can kill it.

No. It is objectively worse than the MiG-21SMT and practically every other 10.3. Play it first before saying something like that.

lol that’s just gaijin. Swedish and russian docs.

Nah it is DEFINITELY too cold by a lot. There is no shot this thing is similar to F-117 heat sig with 2 ancient afterburning engines

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Ok but you contradict this thinking with

MiG-21SMT is the best 10.3 because its just undertiered for zero reason

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In sim, J-7D is probably ok at its BR because it doesnt have IFF and has same BR with J-7E, which is super OP at its BR.

However, in ARB? Yeah they are cracked.

I could be wrong but could you go into sensor view. I think what happened was that the missile was pulling o intercept the F5C but then the Mountain blocked the seeker. If not then idk.

I DO go into sensor view in that clip

Ok. Then the engines are over performing.

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Dang then I SEE that it is a problem don’t know why you gotta use all caps.