with 10.7 BR it is. but if you just want to guarantee your ability to win matches to be not BR dependant you’re better off buying 75 bucks premium.
It’s good for what it is, it’s not some God tier equipment that people here are pretending it is
that is not what I’m saying when I say its undertiered, and it’s disingenuous to imply I am saying it
1 Like
not to glaze myself but i dont need a 75 buck premium to win or carry a match ;)
I’m not talking about you, talking about the others who act like having a Magic 1 means it is unbeatable and that it should be thrown higher up. It’s fine where it is at, especially considering that China is a forgotten nation most of the time. I say this as someone who plays China: it is a very underwhelming country in the air until maybe Rank VIII. I will let you know when I finally reach it, as of right now, I’m just grinding for helis.
1 Like
you do realize 99% of this thread is talking about the PL-5B right, not the magic
It isn’t, it’s simply better than 99% of same br vehicles.
test flew it, imo this is just an issue of BR compression. If you slot it att 11.0 it would start to see 12.0 and would indeed suffer, but you cant lower it either because it would stomp the competition…
Gaijin just needs to decompress BR’s faster and it would be a bit more balanced maybe? Idk
in the exact same way every 11.0 suffers? 11.0s that are often worse aircraft than the J-7D to begin with? pls. it’s not a real reason to keep it 10.7.
1 Like
PL-5s, whatever. It’s a missile, it’s going to be good. I can complain about being smacked by AIM 9s, that doesn’t change that it’s a missile.
And? So the only way to rectify it is by throwing it into a BR it will suffer at? Makes perfect sense. There are plenty of other planes that should be put at 11.0, like both A-10As. AIM 9Ls facing 9.3-7 is completely unfair, more unfair that a buffed up MiG 21MF that can only eliminate players with PL5s from behind.
1 Like
This is an attempt to dumb all missiles down to “just missiles”…? I don’t see the purpose.
It wouldn’t suffer more than any other 11.0. It would just fit in where it belongs currently.
2 Likes
0.7 matchmaking range. how to convey our need for it it? Maybe some bottled JP-6
1 Like
I seriously don’t understand why you honestly believe a generic fighter needs to be at a higher BR, and there is no convincing you of anything. You are so obsessed with this jet that it is honestly stupifying. It is a generic MiG 21 with a better engine. That’s it. It has no other benefits beyond being a slightly faster and more manoeuvrable MiG 21. No decent bombs to bomb bases if you want, just a half decent fighter with half decent missiles that you are under the impression that it is the strongest thing at 10.7 and NEEDS to be thrown higher.
I still don’t see where you are finding these jets, because I was playing my MiG 21 Bis, and I have yet to have found a single J-7D. I found a J-7E a couple of games, but no D.
I am not going to continue arguing. You can believe this jet is the best thing since sliced bread, I will continue to treat it as a half decent premium that I will not buy since I have the A-5C which is a better jet to grind China with anyways.
1 Like
This has some technicality to it since WP-13FI afterburning thrust is like 500 kgf less than R-25-300 that you found on MiG-21bis, but similar non-afterburning performance. it’s a bridge from MiG-21 SMT’s R-13F-300 to MiG-21bis.
There’s no such thing as sliced bread being “the best thing” ever in history unless you live in some dogshit 3rd world country with rice/noodle/cassava/corn culture. Even for a 3rd world shithole enjoyer myself it’s quite mid since the only pairing popular round here is hagelslag.
It’s a phrase. Go on Yahoo Search and look up, “best thing since sliced bread”, it was a common phrase to “hype things up” as they say
oh yeah I know. was also joking myself.
because its better than the other fighters at its BR
you havent really attempted
I just reply to threads I find interesting… I will also reply to any replies I get. Not a crazy concept
It’s a lighter MiG-21MF with a far better engine and extremely strong rear aspect missiles at a BR that is too low for everything I’ve described. If it only had R-60s it could be 10.7. The problem are the missiles are far better than what everything else at the BR has save for like, the A-10, and the platform itself is very competitive at 10.7 being a highly capable plane both in speed and dogfights.
This DOES influence BR but it shouldn’t, as you are also in agreement with going by prior comments, so you shouldn’t bring it up.
name a better fighter for 10.7 tho?
literally play 1 match at 10.7-11.0 right now, go ahead!
3 Likes
You are too young to understand the expression I guess? The meaning is that before SLICED bread (as in, PRE SLICED BREAD, SANDWICH BREAD, COMMON BREAD) you had to buy LOAFS and DO IT YOURSELF… You probably think its talking about bread itself
1 Like
yep, don’t know where he gets off saying J-7D is rare
I see im not the only one whose screenshots come out all pixelated and blurry lo