They are not rare at their BR range, at least on US servers
The last few times i’ve taken the FRS1e into ARB, I dont think i’ve seen a single one. Just a wall of F-5s
It takes one flare for an afterburning F-5 to defeat missiles with IRCCM.
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I play at a high level and simply know my jets. You cry about a lot more than I do so no point trying to insult me over me having legitimate gripes. The F-5’s thermal signature obviously overperforms as the community has noted.
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Maybe the r-73 at range but that’s not how the 9M would work.
I’ve had a 9M defeated by a single tap flare from an F-5E before.
That just means they weren’t paying attention. They’re impossible to kill if the F-5 is aware of their surroundings.
I own the ROC F-5A which is the same but with 9Ps, and I can confirm that it is incredibly good. Most of my kills in it aren’t even from missiles. It should go up, but it can’t because it is worse than the F-5E.
And back to the main topic, which is about the J-7D being undertiered which is factual. Pl-5Bs are fast, with good range, and the J-7 is a solid platform as well. It should be 11.0 in its current state.
Idk how that would work based on the 9Ms seeker but ok. I guess it is what it is and the F5c engines are broken.
I had a British Phantom do that once to a 9L/i that I fired from 2 km away.
Probably LCM + throttle down + a whole heaping of luck.
Well TBF the 9ms are missing some stuff that could make them better.
The J-7D definitely should be higher.
The Kfir Gderot has comparable performance, inferior missile count and comparable missile performance but sits at 11.0 while the J-7D is below it.
I argue the PL-5B is literally the best rear aspect IR missile in the game, period. Magic 1, sidewinders from USAF and USN, K-13, R-60 and others are just outright worse in the majority of scenarios.
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Ah yes, the MiG 21 with only rear aspect missiles should be at the same BR where everyone gets radars and all aspects
Ok? As if there aren’t a dozen+ other jets in similar situations and with worse missiles/platforms? J-7D is too good for 10.7 it’s literally that simple
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The best rear aspect missiles, and most SARH’s below 11.7 are not very good. The J-7D also has a radar and decent flight performance.
If u change direction after you flare 1 flare is enough to dodge Aim-9M in nearly every jet in the game do you even know how a 9M seeker works and why they hardest to dodge side aspect??? Can an F-5C 1 flare a Matra 2??? No it cant because THAT missile dont shut off its seeker when it see’s a flare like 9M’s do … I kill lots of F-5C in my Mirage 5F it slays them and they cant ever catch me + im .7 BR lower with waaaay better missiles
The good thing of the F-5C is that is super easy to fly
5D chess proposal:
Just give J-7D fire bombs so less PL-5B users
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Except the missiles are way better than R60M.
This is honestly a joke or something right?
I love how my post was removed 🤣 and all it was was a replay and me saying that j7d was perfectly balanced (huge sarcasm was obvious)