Merriam-Webster defines optics as the science of light.
Light has many wavelengths. In the infra-red wavelength, objects that are warm emit infra-red light. Thermal imagers are capable of detecting the light in this wavelength.
You are not using Merriam-Webster’s definition.
Thermals as in the imager AKA sensor array, which I clarified in a future post.
And optics as in the Webster definition which you agree with and seemingly call me wrong on for using.
It should go up but, it wont go up. Gaijin is all about “lineups” and they will do anything to protect the 10.0 RU lineup and destroy every other nations lineup. The 2S38 is a very powerful tank and gajoobles excuse is their “stats” because its driven by mostly crayon eaters. Its also the top choice for bots and cheaters. However when played by a skilled player they can abuse it, especially in downtiers - and while any other nations vehicle that has players like that their tanks are sent to BR hell but the 2S38 stays.
If you think thats funny take a look at the Stormer HVM - a 10.3 SPAA. It has manually guided missiles that sometimes dont do anything to planes, phase through them and super janky IRST. It thinks tiny recon drones are the hottest things on the planet and struggles to lock hot afterburning jets oh and if you look up at one thats below a cloud - it simply cant lock them. Meanwhile the 2S38 at 10.0 gets excellent IRST with proxy rounds and is arguably a better SPAA.
Gaijin isn’t about lineups. Not sure why you invented that idea.
Also proximity with a search radar exists at 8.7 and 9.0.
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I wouldnt say better optics considering the 2S38 does have better ther,ald
Did you forget about IRST and HE-VT?
Also LWS
SEP isnt the only MBT to have a prox round, plus an MBT barrel isnt nearly as effective as a light tank that has more range of movement.
Like what? what other SPAA have IRST. APFSDS and proximity shells at 8.7?
Neither have IRS, it’s IRT which doesn’t impact tank killing performance.
HE-VT doesn’t impact tank killing performance either.
LWS can help on maps like Euro Province, but that’s about it these days.
2S38 Should be moved to 10.7 in my opinion. Its way to broken when it gets undertiered against 9.3 tanks that arent armoured as much as 11.3 or 11.7 tanks that HSTL-V faces
And a lot 9.3 tanks dont have Thermals and planes/Helicopters dont have good ATGMs.
“eRm aCtUallY iTs iRs nOt iRt”
You know what we are talking about, you’re just trying to be pedantic.
And?
Still a plus for 2S38
Finally got to have some battles in HSTVL.
HSTVL for 11.3 is flat out better than 2S38 is at 10.X. The ammo just works, and despite it being stock is still the fastest thing on the battlefield allowing me to get into ambush positions easily.
A better question is why hasn’t the 2S38 been moved to the same BR as the Otomatic?
because Italy vehicles
“You can’t handle the truth”
I have the 2S38, and anyone who says it’s 10.0 is acting in bad faith. If this tank were part of the regular lineup of any other nation, it would be at 11.3, but since it’s premium, we know why it’s at this BR. The bad thing about the WT community is that people insist on going against the obvious for their own benefit.
OTOMATIC has better anti-air capabilities and better APFSDS, and even then it’s fairly weak at 11.3.
I’m not sure about that. I think it would fit 10.7-11.0 just fine, 11.3 might be pushing it. It’s certainly much less frustrating to fight against now that the new modules have been added.
Not me justifying it being at 10.3 btw. I do think it should go up, just not a whole 1.0 BR.
I do not have the 2S38 because it’s bad, even if it were 9.3 I would never ever first spawn it over the T-72A. Light tanks are off-meta and the great bulk of them are outrageously overtiered.
That is simply incorrect. Light tanks have recently become the new meta, which I think Gaijin has acknowledged, judging how they are adding vehicles like the Fox, BMD, RDF, XM800, etc. Versatility allows you to take rapid control of the battlefield, same with versatility through speed or fire.
Light tanks are getting weaker as you climb in BR. From 10.0 up, scout drones and scout ability is what’s keeping them decent.
Exactly, the HSTVL at 11.7 is a tank with excellent performance wasted at top tier. The 2S38, which performs similarly (we don’t see it in matches because it’s a premium vehicle that everyone can buy), is at 10.0 and is very strong at this BR.
XM8, CCVL, 2S38, Striker, Rooikat, Centauro, 2S25M, and Tam are far from being bad vehicles. Past that, you get into more autocannon missile light tanks. These are mostly terrible because they’ve either been gimped through missile rebalances or don’t carry a lot of missiles to begin with, which is often their primary and most useful weapon (Namer, Puma, KF41). An exception to this is the BMP-2M.