How long will Aim120 be dominant?

Probably not, but I see a lot of secondary sources required for modeling it.

I mean maybe but the F-22 radar is still very strong on a fully stealth platform. I’m not sure if this is correct but it’s radar is one of the best that the US has

I play with multiple nations in the top tier, when I use a nation that operates aim120 the difference is glaring compared to other missiles, just the chaff resistance it has already leaves all other missiles at a disadvantage, apart from the range and splash dmg too.
Mica, derby, pl12 and r77/r77-1 don’t get kills on splash dmg, aim120 looks like a bomb hitting the ground, only loses to phoenix.

Sort of a big reason for me personally as to why I am not excited for the F-22. I just don’t see how Gaijin could balance it to where everyone is moderately happy. If it doesn’t feel properly stealthy and nearly everyone can detect it, then of course US mains will be (rightfully to a certain in my opinion) upset. But if its too stealthy, then everyone who has to face it (and I don’t see this to be nearly as big of an issue primarily because I do not think we will ever leave the era of top tier air battles having the US on both teams) will be (again, rightfully but not to the same extent) upset.

It feels like it is going to upset more than it hypes. Do you hand the US another exceptionally dominant fighter? Do you nerf if to be viable in the game as is? Not to mention, I do not believe Gaijin could add it without fudging some stats because even though its a rather old airframe at this point (sort of), I would imagine a large part of it is still classified.

I have to fall on the side of…I don’t think we should rush to its implementation. It’s going to be controversial. There’s simply no getting around it.

Thinking about it just now; I think I would rather see the F-35 come to the game before the F-22. At least more nations (assuming certain political factors don’t muddy things up) are on the docket to get it. Sure, the US might have the more dominant variant of it, but it would be a great all-a-rounder for everyone.

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Yeah, If the US needs a buff, they can get later F-15 or F-18 variants, or even a missile/radar upgrade for their current airframes. No need entering the quagmire of F-22 or Su-57 at the moment. Typhoon was required because there was nothing, Rafale was required because there was nothing… F-22 isnt required because there are lots and lots of other options.

Tenatively… That would be the RAF version with ASRAAM and Meteors over the Aim-9X and Aim-120D equipped version the US uses :P

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I can agree to this. The US has quite a few more variants of its already implenented airframes that could give it a more competitive edge. F-16 Block 70/72s and F-15EXs being the big names there. But there’s still a lot on the missile and kit side of things that yes, would bridge the need for another new airframe.

Maybe. I personally don’t know much about the F-35 and what all it is getting across its full implementation. Nor am I a fan of it or the F-22 (personally) purely because of its “jack-of-all-trades” stealth design philosophy. Like yeah, Ferrari 458s and Enzos and Pagani Zonda are cool and all but the don’t have the same vibe and emotion as a 250 GTO, E-Type, '65 Mustang, or '70s Challenger. But this is taking things off track. Coming back to the topic, I pretty much agree with your points.

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You know who talks like this? Kids, children too young to play this game. Are you sure you meet the age requirements? Try to be more civil and add to a conversation.

Could we please avoid such comments and enjoy a respectful conversation?

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image yes!

If you’re moving nearly perpendicular to the enemy, missile will have to lead you and constantly deflect the fins to make adjustments.

Drama ??? Typical USSR mains garbage argument

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Here is the real problem that Snail ignores in every venue. BR compression and uptier.

This is a bogus claim LMAO

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Any missile launch outside a MICAs effective range is only going to hit someone that is a useless player anyway

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France… That also has an AIM-120 slinger? The only nations that don’t are China and USSR, and China should have one anyways with their F-16.

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Sure, while the MICA outperforms every other missile by at least 3 times in close range.

You can’t have both good bvr and wvr performance on a missile and not have the same on other missiles, unless you want to go back to the good old days and just have Gaijin slap a 100k repair cost on the Rafale.

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It’s fine to be so good at closer ranges it makes up for longer range capability. BVR is mostly a larping game and you’re complaining about it.

Yes literally this is fine

You say this like it’s some gotcha, LMAO cry more. Both are going to be defeated equally easily when launched at those extreme ranges anyway.

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This is flat out wrong. All ARHs, except the MICA with the new patch, have identical seekers.

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