Maybe next time don’t talk about ground units in a thread about 120.
Tell that to Von Valinor that started its “yuh abrums dominates in ground tournaments” bs narrative
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I’m telling it to you as you’re the one that’s telling others to stop derailing while you’re doing the same thing.
I’d accept a slight derailment to stop false narratives, rather than pushing it further to 10.7 vehicles that have NOTHING to do to his point.
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Talking about M1s and other top tier tanks in a thread about ARHs isn’t just a slight derailment.
Me talking about 10.7s is just a case of me stopping false narratives after seeing people claiming 0.3 difference is meaningless.
Won’t answer again.
that difference doesn’t even matter, its downtiers aren’t even common.
Do you have any valid source for that, or is it just an anecdote ?
Same anecdotes as your word for ‘the Abrams is a good tank, players are the issue’
stop derailing aim120 topic
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At least tanks have hard stats you can compare between tanks (ammo, armor, mobility, etc…), meanwhile your “claim” about downtiers being uncommon is nothing but a hearsay to make it more believable.
I feel like half this thread haven’t used the aim120 to say its weaker than r77-1. It maintains energy better than the r77-1. Having used both, i’d rather have the amraam. Especially off of something like an f15 or eurofighter, even rafale would make an excellent aim120 host. You can get consistent hits out to 40km or so. Furthest I’ve managed to push it is about 50km. You just have to be going mach 1.5 or better. Most of the time people are going so fast that they cant hit the notch before the missile hits them. You have to dive hard to dodge them.
You must think the F-90 sucks and the IRIAF should go to 12.3 if that’s what you believe actual engagement ranges are.
I have no clue about those, so I abstain from speaking about that which I am not familiar with, hahah.
I’d rather have R-77-1 on russian planes and amraam on western planes which is fitting
It was so dominant because it was the only missile that could be fired from 60km and hit within next Tuesday. If people were firing from 60km there is more than enough range between there and 10km for AMRAAMs to be fired.
skill issue, bvr missiles are very expectable, visible when launched from high and also visible on radar.
like i said,
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I do not understand, does it not pop up on RWRs or something? It’s the only way I can find it justifiable to hit targets from 60 km away…
How can someone not do anything to defend in 1+ minute of RWR screaming at you and telling you where a missile is coming from?
It’s an ARH and (IIRC) faster than the R-27ER, it also burns all the way to the target. The dodging matter is a different story (many people have trouble turning 90° for some reason). The point is that there is more to an enough range at which the AIM-120 is well within its optimal engagement zones.
Edit: The RWR does not scream all the way when you’re in TWS guiding it, only the last 16km when they have about 5 seconds to dodge
yet the launches are visible in radar and to eye, you can also expect it based on range and altitudes and i dont see any reason why a su30sm pilot wouldn’t see your launch if they are looking at you on tws
funny thing being, only for your situation to work is to assume that the su30sm pilot is blind
also funny how when r-77 is launched, in arguments everyone says that the hostile pilot instantly knows but then when amraam is launched we pretend that the pilot is blind to argue that the amraam is now so good
you could give the f15E r77-1 instead and it would give you the same result the platform is the issue not the missile.