How long will Aim120 be dominant?

Yes, but as you said, maps rn arent that big.


@SidewaysCube946 @MotorolaCRO @AllNationEnjoyer
_120 vs 77-1 test.rar (5.3 MB)
A test i just did with some friends, on equal situations, on the long run the AIM-120 is better againts a maneuvering target, both missiles miss tho and anyone should be able to notch them.

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AIM-120 is just heading towards the chef.

So you’re complaining about someone who notched succesfully?

That’s the whole reason the AIM-120 is still in the lead for longer engagements. Especially if the target is attempting to dodge it kinematically.

Your test file requires me to download it and I’m currently not in a place with great internet so I’ll take a look later

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All ARH seekers are identical except for the Aim-54A/C and F-90. They have different seekers.

MICA, Aim-120. PL-12, R-77, etc etc. have, as far as I am aware, 100% identical seeker performance.

The only differences are that in the kinematic performance of the missile and imo, at shorter ranges this makes MICA WAAAAY harder to defeat than Aim-120 or pretty much any other ARH. But at longer ranges I can usually defeat the MICA kinematically without the use of much or even any chaff. Aim-120 just has more energy to play with at the same kind of range that I can kinematically defeat a MICA with ease.

120 doesnt suffer drag like a parachute strapped on it compared to 77-1 and 77

in paper and raw performance 77-1 should be superior, but in game it is truly not superior on 120.

And because of that drag, you cant use it like 120 , it loses so much energy when your target just takes a small turn. So yeah, that 50g is nice on paper, but it doesnt work like mica… (Yes I know it doesnt have thrust vector either)

Yeah, but is not that big of a difference, is like PL-12 vs AIM-120 diference at +40km, before that the 77-1 is 1km ahead of the 120

Sounds good

MICA was changed to a smaller notch window and is marginally harder to dodge as of the latest update.

I say marginally because it is near identical until about 2km away, after which the differences can be seen.

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Interesting, thank you.

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You are creating a difference in your mind that does not exist in game.

77-1 also wobbles a lot currently. Makes it lose more energy than intended

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That’s all TVC missiles I think.

77-1 ain’t tvc though

Its not? Thought they were. My bad

Fortunately (or unfortunately?) They aren’t

But fr though, the wobble is kinda crazy

ONly when your target fly dead straight it’s faster on opponent compared on 120.
But if you fire both missiles, from same altitude and same speed, and target turns 90" left, that 120 is faster on target and more likely to even get close to it

Why does everybody think R-77 and R-77-1 are TVC,extremely common mistake to the point I was being gaslit it was for a few days

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Has it actually been reported?

No clue, gonna do it tomorrow (local time) I guess. Juat need more recordings of it

People just assume everything from RU has TVC.