Is this the part where I tell you “Cope”? Because my winrate is consistently above 60% and I exclusively fly solo. For example I’ve got an 86% WR on the P51D20 even though it’s a mediocre plane unlike the LA9, mostly because I know how to clutch matches on my own.
By the way I’m not even that good, and I often struggle in amazing planes like the meteor mk8, I just can’t make it work.
I’d need to fly the yak3U to make a statement, but I honestly believe the P51H would win the fight by keeping its speed up and dragging the yak up at altitude, and even if the yak pilot is smart and keeps low I still believe the P51H can win without much trouble.
You’re forgetting the P51C at 3.7, with better performance than the P51D20 at 4.0 (lol)
I wouldn’t say so, it’s quirky and has a very peculiar playstyle that most people won’t like but ironically for all my whining about the P51H, the way you fly the LA9 is pretty similar to the playstyle required to make P51’s work, you have to stay fast and play energy and get that first shot to piece your enemy appart. And honestly the LA9 is the sort of plane where aim matters more than flying imo because the guns only require one hit to win (I love the NS23 so much).
There’s this very odd elitist mindset to this community that anytime someone voices legitimate concerns about a vehicle doing poorly because it’s overtiered, people will say “skill issue” and “I do well in it so clearly you’re the problem” wether the points made by OP are good or bad. Similarly if someone asks why a vehicle is allowed to roam around and dominate a whole BR range and oppress whole matches, people will write “Cope”, “skill issue” etc. The really funny part is that usually the people doing this are pretty bad at the game, and it seems like a little ritual to reassure themselves that they’re still above the person they’re mocking.
As a guy that has a few matches in the P-51H and none in the Yak-3U, my opinion is only half formed… that being said, the P-51H (really the whole family) doesn’t fare particularly well at altitude. The Mustang has only a marginal advantage in energy production above 6500 m… and not enough to overcome the superior MER of the Yak-3U from a equal energy merge.
The challenge for the Mustang is that the Yak-3U out rates the Mustang at every speed (while its wings are still attached) and has similar sustained turn performance. The advantage of the P-51H is speed. Forcing a positional advantage over time by using higher rip/dive speed, or superior in-line speed to enter a fight with higher energy and ending/extending before the Yak can equalize.
It’s a surprisingly balanced match-up considering their difference in BR. That said, what I wanted to express (poorly it seems) was that flying against the Mustang for its opponents is similar to flying against the Yak-3U… particularly in a lower BR aircraft. Neither is an especially good experience.
I have the P-51 H 5 and i would like to offer a contrary opinion. The turn time is alright, nothing brilliant. The guns are a little underpowered, only 6 50 cals doesn’t do so well against all metal fighters. At any higher br, it would consistently face jets against which it would absolutely suffer. There are many planes that are competitive with it at the same br, and it isn’t incredible in any way. Also, at the end of the day people from all nations are gonna say that they suffer. I could write about Russian bias, but for the sake of my and everyone else’s mental health, im gonna shut up
Interesting, I assumed the Yak3U’s engine basically stopped working above 4k alt (seems like most yaks share the same high altitude performance deficiency). I guess the Yak3U escapes that drawback, I really need to get it and fly it.
Perhaps, but I’d rather have one plane suffer instead of a whole BR range getting dunked on, decompression can only be achieved by raising BR’s not lowering them (although i’m sure Gaijin will find ways to lower the BR’s of the Ayit or the f104 again someday.)
With the current state of aircraft guns, .50 cals absolutely dominate with tracer belts, they’re the only guns that deal consistent damage. Fly any canon equipped spitfire and then fly any P51 and you will see the difference I guarantee it.
I think the “Yak-X and La-X are low altitude fighters” is over done a bit. Most of the fighters in this game that I have encountered and flown have engine performance biased towards low altitude.
The power production on the Super 'Stang is better between 1000-2000m and 5000 to 6500m… but all that’s doing is chipping away at the Yak-3U’s substantial power-to-weight advantage, until the Mustang can eek out a little P:W advantage above 6500m. Without WEP, the Mustang has no chance. Similar story with the Yak-3 vs. the P-51D-10 - the Mustang eeks out a slight advantage over 5500m.
In fact, I played a match just this morning in the Yak-3 where I started off by dunking on a Bf-109 G-2 in a fight that started at 4600m or so.
Iirc there’s some bug that allows some planes to have unlimited injection.
They do if we’re going to scrutinize them.
Go spade it, then fly it for 10 matches then come back here.
Okay to discuss the topic at hand; the P51H DOES deserve to go up in BR (and so does a myriad of other planes.) Playing it was entertaining even when I was grinding modifications on it I didn’t find myself on the backfoot hoping for a miracle. Jets are different but even then it was manageable.
Playing against it? Different story, my most recent one is going against SEVEN of them in a single match in the French F8F-1B. Annoying and nerve-wracking to say the least.
Though I don’t mind the La-9 going to 5.7 though, it’s really mid at everything it does.
The La-9 is a La-7 with a cleaner airframe (less drag equals +30kph top speed), 4x NS-23 with worse ballistics + ammo pool and worse MER. This is not worth a bump in 1.3 br and you could argue that the La-7 should be 5.0 like the La-7 B-20 but this range has plenty examples of gaijin’s choice of balancing flight performance vs firepower. Stuff like Ki-84 ko → Ki-84 hei, N1K1-Ja → N1K2s. Or you have things that are at a lower or equal BR but with performance and armament that is better than the La-9 in almost every way.
I agree that gaijin has this obsession with firepower that borders on insanity sometimes, one example I like to use is the J7W1, like why is that poor thing so high, it’s only good in headons, that’s it.
Honestly I wouldn’t mind if the LA9 went down, but as things stand I also don’t mind its current BR. I’m also far too lazy to make a BR change proposition in the official thread lol
They are good planes though, in a proper dogfight they can take the advantage (yes i know dogfights in ARB aren’t common). And yeah, the matchmaker made them irrelevant but you can still hold your own and take down 3-4 guys before the sabre/mig15 swarm eats you up.
You aren’t educated enough (in general on WT) to make this sort of claim, but you also haven’t flown russian planes (pretty much at all) so you’re double ignorant of what you claim.
Used to be a reasonable forum user who I could agree with and disagree with normally but in the past few weeks or maybe a bit longer it’s just been ragebait or at the very least him making statements that are clearly wrong with little backup.