ARB is a joke of a mode for years now. Whole types of aircraft are being rendered almost useless by their own mode, which I find really egregious.
2 Likes
ARB is miserable for them whilst they get to ruin GRB so that is also miserable for everyone else.
1 Like
Why would you spend anything other than on $40 a year premium account?
Game is free to play, and premium account is the best bonus.
But yeah, Gaijin wants matches to last as long as possible, that’s why air is PVPVE and why people are incentivized to stay in matches longer. @Miragen
Ground RB is in a healthy state, better than its been in the past.
Of course with air RB, there’s only so much you can do with Counter Strike in air.
If they did, air wouldn’t be in the state it is currently in. Plus, wanting longer matches conflicts with their interest of lowering rewards in order to incentivize spending money.
Barely.
Debatable. The maps are not that good, the balance is mediocre, and the rewards are well below what other modes earn. Decompression is also a huge issue too, especially in certain brackets like 2.3-3.7, 5.0-6.7, and 7.3-9.0.
Which is why we need a mode such as RB EC. Gaijin has said nothing since they did a couple events many years ago, despite it being a wanted idea in the community. How hard can it be for Gaijin to copy and paste SB but with RB controls? They do it with tanks already, why can’t they do the same with a gamemode?
3 Likes
8.0 is already perfectly decompressed.
6.0 is decompressed as well.
2.7 is still compressed of course, but that’s about it.
it’s reliant on better AI that doesn’t exist in the game at this time.*
Also they don’t have an “interest” of lowering rewards, they have an interest of people buying premium accounts. Which the repair cost insurance does more than the rewards bonus.
Area around 8.0 has one of the worst compressions in the game.
3 Likes
Gaijin doesn’t want you to play air battles, they want you to play ground RB. That’s why most attack aircraft and ordnance added in the last few years have been focused heavily on CAS, why they’re so reluctant about adding stuff like ARMs and fire-and-forget air-to-ground weapons. Attackers and bombers in air RB are an afterthought.
I recommend trying sim. I don’t know what model of Tornado you’re using, but the earlier ones at least are decent ground pounders in the mode.
1 Like
If you’re talking about ground, you are completely wrong. I don’t understand how anyone could think those BRs aren’t compressed? If they weren’t compressed, why are the M26 and Tiger II P 6.7? They’re too good for 6.3, but not good enough for 6.7? How is a 1 BR difference between a T-55AM-1 and a AMX-50 balanced? How is a leopard 1 only .7 Br lower than the Obj 122? And the Obj 122 isn’t 9.0 material either.
No it isn’t. Tell me what is stopping Gaijin from copy and pasting ASB, but with RB controls.
And lowering rewards encourages that.
If only the rewards for playing planes in GRB weren’t much smaller than what you get in ARB.
Some people just want to play planes, so their GRB interest might not be that high. Also, you can’t spawn planes first in that mode.
But yeah, Gaijin wants matches to last as long as possible, that’s why air is PVPVE and why people are incentivized to stay in matches longer.
Games literally end in 5 minutes total, how are you supposed to stay longer?
Total match length, 5:03
First contact
3:03
Literally 2 minutes of gameplay after 3 minutes of flying.
4 Likes
Exactly, those are the reasons why I don’t play that mode. I’m just explaining why Gaijin doesn’t care about changing anything in air RB. A few years ago there was some Q&A with the devs about this topic and I remember the devs outright saying that if you want to play attackers you should play ground RB.
1 Like
The absolute power of brainless high/top tier gameplay.
1 Like
Calling it brainless isn’t fully accurate, but I’d call it overstimulating/too quick instead.
It was… 4 years ago, it hasn’t since.
There’s a reason I main 8.0 and 7.7, and it’s not cause they’re compressed.
Maus is the strongest it could ever be, cause any decompression WILL move Maus up in BR as it’s currently balanced, as one example. Also almost all if not all 6.7s would move up as well cause they’re currently balanced, then all 5.7s, then all 4.7s, then all 3.7s until 2.7 is decompressed.
@Ion_Protogen
AMX-50 lacks a rangefinder and stabilizer, yet retains a potent round in an autoloader. That’s how there’s a 1.0 BR difference. T-55A has a marginally better performing round to use with that rangefinder and stabilizer.
The exclusive difference between Tiger IIP and IIH is the front turret armor, it’s marginal.
And M26 has an extremely potent APCR round. The fact that T26E5 is still 6.7 is largely a miracle.
Air sim needs an AI overhaul as well, but not as much as air RB EC. The reason why they can’t copy-paste is cause air RB gives more information just from the third person view. So they need MORE AI, and smart AI to make it easier to hide in the cloud.
Gaijin hasn’t lowered rewards.
@Miragen
Player choices are outside Gaijin’s control.
Games last up to 25 minutes, and I’ve had at least 5 25 minute matches in the last 2 weeks.
Not sure why you have a post portraying a love of short matches so much.
They do care and they are making changes, changes take time.
“They didn’t code a new AI in 1 hour! BAD DEVS! WHAA!” Meanwhile it took DCS 3 years to code new AI.
Kind of, but higher you go the more automated it becomes to the point it becoming really simple.
…
You have me262s and hortons and gloster meteors fighting sabres and mig-15s.
In fact, they can even face off against mig-17s.
confidently incorrect
Exactly. We need decompression, and that is quite literally how it is done. Increase the max BR to 13.0 ofr GRB, and then do all of that.
A stabilizer is worth 0.3BR, same with a lrf, APFSDS, and better armour. And don’t forget about the AMDs APS.
lmao. Marginal.
They shouldn’t be at the same BR. If the T26E5 moves up, so does several other 6.7 heavies, and then that would mean that many other tanks would move up too in order to keep stuff balanced. Sounds alot like decompression to me.
Just use the same marker system like ASB, and that still doesn’t stop them from just running a TEST for a few days.
Please do NOT put words into my mouth. I did NOT say that. Do not do that again.
1 Like
We’re talking ground for some reason cause Ion brought it up.
However, air 9.0 is an issue as I stated previously.
I’m not talking about Maus.
I’m talking about vehicles with full stabilization, darts, LRF facing tanks that lack all of that and also have other cons.
1 Like