(talking about the image) Thats podboi aka anti radiation lining, which, according to CIA provides abilities of a spall liner.
T-80UD did not wield thermals, only T-80U did, back in 1987 they trialed Agava 2 and Progress 2, Agava 2 won and was in production in 1990.
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Seriously ? You believe that ? That all armored vehicles are the same?
Ah yes, “the grass is more green on the other side”.
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Comparing an IFV to an MBT nice.
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NADBOI is purely NBC protection it provides no spall resistance if that were the case then every soviet tank down to the T-55A should recieve a full spall liner covering the whole vehicle interior
Have you got definitive proof that the Abrams has a spall liner?
nadboi is outside of tank, what you sent is podboi, and is inside of the tank.
It does provide them according to CIA, and no, not every each, T-62 ditched it IIRC, modern russian MBTs as well, cant recall each one.
The coverage is also not complete tank and the resistance is still lower than of kevlar.
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What comes through the tank when it is penetrated by DU is not spall its radioactive dust .HESH creates spall and similar ammo.To say a virtually WW1 tank and the latest MBT are the same is ridiculous.
Fire was the biggest issue not Spalling.
Take a modern cash carrying truck used in civvy street.All kevlar and plastic. Nothing to spall. And you really think you are going to see a visible spall liner now days? Many modern AVs look like the inside of a fridge not like something from the Fury movie.Its a view point bordering on mental illness lol Jeez!
Sums this forum up : )
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Me when i schizo post
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I have a question what do you think a composite spall liner looks like? because if you think its the kevlar liner that looks like a rug let say, you are wrong.
This is a spall liner for the BTR-80A, if you look carefully it looks like a regular steel add on like the other parts of said vehicle but isn’t. Whats bad is this is a UK company making spall liners for African nations using old soviet equipment. Spall Liners | Composite Spall Liners For Military - Permali
Now to answer your question, yes the Abrams has spall liners.
Where? I don’t know but just saying i don’t see it isn’t the answer.
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In reality : Woven and non-woven S2, E glass fibre fabrics and tissues
Kevlar and Twaron rubber coated aramid fibres
Ballistic grade UHMWPE fibres, including DSM Dyneema and Honeywell Spectra Shield
In Nano-gaming’s world …an old bed sheet.
This is in fact not BTR-80A. Just compare the amount of inside space.
BTR-82A with kevlar lining inside of it.
you do realize their is a rear compartment for the infantry its carrying right
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Yes and kevlar is seen, the image you sent doesnt even seem like an inside of BTR-80A to begin with.
This looks like emptied M113.
this is a picture of an upgrade to said kevlar to a composite package offered by a UK company. The BTR-80 has been gutted and the new spall liner placed inside so the rest can be placed inside at a later date. God some people just want to argue for no reason, because either way be it a BTR a M113 or just someone’s van it proves spall liners aren’t just carpets draped on the inside of vehicles
also the btr interior is not that small
I am not arguing if this is spall liner or not, the upgrade page itself showing BTR-80A contradicts what you sent.
Now on more recent image it’s not screens but fabric.
Which is oblivious it’s not a screen but a fabric by its sole look.
And no, just a screen shouldnt be isntantly taken as spall liner, as in case of Chally 1 it can actually turn out as sound dampener.
ActUAllY ItS A ScREEn. Then how do these companies sell these “screens” when they market them as spall liners and countries buy them.
the bradley is not a abrams, it isn’t even made by the same company. .
im tired of saying this go read the bug reports we’ve posted this numerous times on how the spall liner is made on the abrams, people who even crewed on the abrams have said this. I dont know why you and other people keep ignoring the amount of times we’ve said this.