If it’s modeled that way. I would agree, it may be ok at 10.3.
But, it shouldn’t be modeled that way. It should be very hard for a ground based missile to lock it up, specifically because all of the things they look for, are very hard to see.
Those BR’s SPAA’s are also over tiered which makes the problem worse because there is no parity or standoff distance. It would essentially be like a drone @11 when you get 2 free shots if the pilot isn’t a brick
Strela and Type 93 will easily still get a lock with contrast seekers
What radar SPAA’s are engaging (effectively) 8-10km at the 10-10.3 BR?
Because every day I see CAS loitering at that range firing guided or F&F munitions and retreating
in theory it should be able to use missiles with LOAL ability in its inner pylons
Not what I said. RADARS are at SHORT RANGE within 10km. The M247 is using the F-16’s radar for instance which when within 10km very well could have a chance of detecting something like the F-117 from what I know about it. I don’t imagine most people here actually know about these things to disagree with what I just said at least more than what I can do back, so we’ll see how they’re added
So a 5km missile system is supposed to counter a 10 ish KM standoff stealth aircraft?
Gee I can’t see any issue with that. Its not like that is already not working for helicopters with 8+ km munitions
Extremely weird addition to please the hype warriors
F-117 doesn’t have ~10km of range in WT unless you are toss bombing with CCRP. You’re dropping a paveway with a 6km seeker range which has to have the seeker pointed at the target in that last 6km approach, not pointed downwards or too far forwards either. You’re doing this in a low thrust/weight ratio subsonic jet. The approach would be you trying to find a guy on scope at 15km out, then locking onto him the best you can or near him, flying as fast as you can towards him then using CCRP to toss the bomb with an upwards arc hoping he is still there in like 40 seconds when the bomb has made its entire travel arc and while trying to maintain a laser lock. You could also try climbing to space but this thing has a shitty engine as it is and you will easily get jumped up there by jets or any kind of contrast seeker SAM and again, two paveways.
It has no Air to Air weapons, it’s a strike hawk.
I dunno I’ve seen some Tram’s hitting guys with Paveways while orbiting outside of anyone’s ability to counter them.
Did the Paveway seeker distance get nerfed at some point? I thought it was similar to the Maverick/Hellfire.
The ability to counter them:
(They won’t)
Yes guys, I respect your opinions.
But as I say, when something is still secret, there is a lot of room for imagination … and especially in a computer game that sticks to reality for various reasons, only approximately…
Maybe take DCS World and F-22 Raptor …
Where did they get the data for the flight model when this machine is even more classified than the Nighthawk … ?
Again, you’re suggesting a missile system whose max range is less than the standoff distance of the paveway as a counter, that’s self defeating.
That’s the same problem we see right now with much of the CAS options. They outrange and overmatch all of the current SPAAs.
Suggesting the only option is a CAP fighter in GRB is admitting to a poorly placed BR ranking.
You series use the radar in AA, it doesn’t make sense, it’s better to aim without it, at least the plane doesn’t know that something is flying into it, f117a will be pointless
? The stinger and strela can both absolutely reach out and touch you at 5-6km altitude above the ground, which is where you’ll be when doing this at some point unless you are super committed to staying in heaven. The alternative is toss bombing…
When said plane has only 2 bombs and a LOT of downsides…
Both of those have a max range of 5km. So engaging a plane bombing you from 8-6km is at best case on the fringe of the WEZ
And the Stinger is not getting a lock on a 117 unless it’s terribly modeled.
No… they don’t. Planes with shitty FMs diving from space also lack options for maneuvering.
Once again… Type 93 and contrast seeker. That is what I was referring to. The stinger would also ABSOLUTELY get a lock irl on a F-117 since it has far more going on to GET the lock than the F-117 does to PREVENT it. Stingers in WT are garbage compared to irl.