You’re not wrong. I was just commenting on their performance in DS that left much to be desired (but not really their fault, it was the first use)
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🤣 ok bud, agree to disagree
not talking about radar missiles, i’m talking about radar detection.
the issue isn’t necessarily shooting it down, it’s finding it to shoot it down. below a certain BR, besides visually, that is virtually impossible. and you still need to catch up to the paveway slinging stealth aircraft that’s at 7km up. to even begin to try to shoot it down
Radar detection does not matter in air RB.
You know how often I used my Mirage 3C’s radar? 3 times at most due to one last guy.
Finding the F-117 is as easy as finding any other bomber in the game.
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Similar state to A-4E Early in grb, if the pilot doesn’t descend he will be basically untouchable by gun SPAAs at its br
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I dont think its that big of an issue.
in ARB, most dont even have radar to begin with at 8.7
And in GRB its hard to place it above 10.0/10.3? Where I may be using something like the Hunter for CAP which doesnt even have a radar to begin with.
I think the Stealth will be a gimmick and the funny thing is that it will mostly face aircraft that dont even have radars. Only slightly concern is something like the Stormer HVMs IRST not getting a lock “if” they model the IR sig stuff right, which they havent on most aircraft
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I may need to remind you that I am a sim player
yes in RB you can just see it. unless (because stealth) they make the name not show up until you’re super close to it.
In sim, you can’t. You NEED the radar. So the F-117 can just zombie mode to the enemy base and then come back over and over because no one can actually find the damn thing
You’ll note the category of this topic:
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it would be a pain for the F-117 tho, only 1000 km/h and can only carry 2 bombs per run
I will also note that someone said this exact same thing earlier
And besides, RB is basically general discussion with the way it affects every gamemode
Are you serious? How do you find a F-86K or a F-3D? Guess what??? You find the F-117 the same way! This is literally the first time ever that I agree with alvis, 8.3 would be fine since it gets very little bombs, is subsonic, doesnt have a way to kill other planes, and the stealth literally doesnt matter in air RB besides that radars cant see you but at 8.3 nobody is seeing people with radars anyway!
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??? you SHOOT it? Since you can CATCH it?
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I may need to remind you this is a realistic thread
??? STEALTH HAS NO BEARING ON ABILITY TO VISUALLY ID
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Even in Sim, its not that big of a deal. At 8.7 most things dont even have a radar to begin with, if this thing was taking out 3 bases per sortie, it could be an issue, but if its taking out even 1 then its doing very well
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And I doubt it would be good in sim either. If it’s facing supersonic planes, it would be very bad.
You don’t need a radar to spot planes in sim, especially since lower BR jet matches exist.
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too coked up on the wish for ECM
This!
The F-117 is relatively slow, it has no offence weapons and only a small bomb bay. The only beneficial attribute it has is stealth , which is completely useless in any mode with markers.
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I don’t think it’s that hard. If it’s below 10.7 it will shit on all SPAAs if “properly modeled”
None of the ground based IR missiles are going to get a lock on it, except maybe the Igla with its contact lock, as it should atleast as hard to lock up as the current helicopters, and the guided missiles are a bag of ass. Unless it gets low enough/close enough for an IRST gun track, or a lucky prox fuse burst it should essentially be untouchable.
Also useless in sim because you can just visually spot planes then close in until you see the very visually distinct F-117. The BR this thing would be at would not have radars being used to find planes anyway. The stealth basically only comes into play maybe in GRB and thats only if they don’t let the SPAA radar detect it.
Pretty sure you are greatly exaggerating how well it will actually do in game at having diminished IR and radar signature at close range.
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