Try, 8.3 for air and 9.7+ for ground
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Yeah… the SU-25 is better in every way… 9.7 ground I agree with though, because there’s no markers. Just compare the F-117 to the Buccaneer S.1 and then see how similar they are and the Buccaneer is at 8.7
Then fact that virtually none of the SPAAs can even engage you is absolutely broken.
Free kills and reloading is broke.
With Gaijins record with bombs I’ll say 2 possible kills.
He literally said A2G ordnance comparison not airframe performance. What LGB or TGP does the A-4E have?
A-4E has guns, turns better, is faster, can carry bombs and rockets, has missiles.
in terms of quantity yes but quality wise they were fighting equal aircrafts in late 20th century too. like in the Vietnam war the F-4 had to fight the MiG-21 which on paper was a counter to F-4
also flares and rwr
IMPO I tdont think F-117 is good idea to put in game since it will be either too OP or just useless…And Im afraid its gonna be useless
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It’ll be neither cause of the BR system.
The only way it can be OP in air RB for example if it’s put at ~7.3.
The only way it can be OP in ground RB for example if it’s put at ~9.3.
Thats why I said its gonna be useless
Except it’ll be useful at 8.0 - 9.0 air, and 10.0 - 10.7 ground.
I really hope so but I dont belive it.
It not lil bro
Vautour IIB at 9.0. No guns, no countermeasures, no AAM, no RWR, no radar, flies like a brick, ground spawn, no longer that fast, somewhat limited armanent and no bomb sight or any ccrp/ccip.
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Even if it can destroy a base, that has no effect to the battle itself at this BR.
The only thing it could be used for is as bait.
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On paper those numbers sound reasonable.
The only thing i’m thinking about is how it will actually perform in Air RB in regards to efficiency.
it has zero ability to take out any enemy planes, it can only drop bombs and only 2 of them so one base per takeoff at most. So even if you survive an entire match without being shot down by other planes you can at a maximum take out 3 bases for the entire match.
Those won’t make very great efficiency numbers…
Look at other bombers in the same BR range, they at least have self defence guns, main guns and/or BIG loadouts. This will have none of that. It’s going to be VERY hard to balance in air modes.
That’s actually a really good comparison. At least when looking at BR placement.
The biggest difference would be the amount of ordinance it can bring. (and 3 of the 4 bomber Vautours having 30mm canons for self defence and AI ground killing)
Since BR is based on average efficiency and the Vautour can bring 6x1000lb bombs its going to, on average, perform better than the F-117 that can only bring two bombs (i don’t know max size). So lets say you can take out one base with two bombs, the Vautour will be able to take out 3 bases in one spawn and the F-117 would in that case only take out 1 base on the same spawn.
So my guess would be a low 8.x BR placement for the F-117